From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mohsen BANAN Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: just-the-text Emacs frame Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 08:43:55 -0700 Organization: ByStar Federation of Autonomous Libre Services -- http://www.by-star.net Message-ID: References: <87aaebbndz.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4DDDA5A7.6040109@siege-engine.com> <87boyp5vyi.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mxi8xq6y.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874o4ebtq0.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87vcwpsa6y.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871uzccr2k.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1307031390 25085 80.91.229.12 (2 Jun 2011 16:16:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:16:30 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 02 18:16:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSAZM-00013C-Bl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 18:16:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42640 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QSAZL-00048C-5h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 12:16:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40362) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QSA43-0004gC-PQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 11:44:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QSA41-00021i-OJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 11:44:03 -0400 Original-Received: from 0016.bacs.by-star.net ([198.62.92.166]:52969) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QSA40-00020g-NC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 11:44:01 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 26797 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2011 08:39:27 -0700 Original-Received: from 192.168.0.187 ([192.168.0.187]) by 0016.bacs.by-star.net ([198.62.92.166]) with ESMTP via TCP; 02 Jun 2011 15:39:27 -0000 In-Reply-To: <871uzccr2k.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu, 02 Jun 2011 08:15:31 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 198.62.92.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140072 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 08:15:31 -0500, Ted Zlatanov said: Ted> I wouldn't go as far as a tooltip, though. I think it's important that Ted> the emacs-panel popup frames be like any other Emacs frame, simply Ted> displaying a buffer. That way we can use all the normal buffer-level Ted> facilities when we display things inside emacs-panel popups, like text Ted> properties and image overlays and UI elements. I request for a bit more inside of an emacs-panel. Please let live emacs-panels consist of live emacs-tiles. Live meaning updated (as you are already doing it with the timer). A live emacs-tile being a rectangle. Associated with a buffer. Each emacs-tile has an "update" function. A live emacs-tile may optionally have a clickable (touchable) function. So, in addition to being "live" it is optionally "active". Each emacs-tile may have an "activate" function. So, an emacs-panel would not be simply displaying a buffer, but possibly a series of buffers (tiles). With tiles available inside of panels, we would be one more step closer towards making Emacs24 Mobile. With "live" and "active" emacs-tiles available within emacs-panels, we could then provide a parallel to (easy-menu-define) where even existing menus are also emacs-panel/tile based. The process of splitting an emacs-panel into emacs-tiles can be based on something like Lars's (gnus-add-configuration). All of that would let Emacs24-Mobile to compete with Windows7-Mobile UI. Your thoughts? ...Mohsen