From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Eide Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is there a way to move to next line in wrapped text? Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 17:36:03 -0700 (MST) Organization: University of Utah School of Computing Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1073611578 3331 80.91.224.253 (9 Jan 2004 01:26:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 01:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 09 02:26:10 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AelPd-0007Ie-00 for ; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:26:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AelkH-0000XO-1Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 20:47:29 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.cs.utexas.edu!news.cc.utah.edu!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 36 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ioka.flux.utah.edu Original-X-Trace: coward.ks.cc.utah.edu 1073608566 18787 155.98.60.84 (9 Jan 2004 00:36:06 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@cc.utah.edu Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Jan 2004 00:36:06 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley, berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:VqI7zKTu0zr8NFJajivcoHxKiK0= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:119903 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:15837 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:15837 "leo" == leo writes: leo> i had a look at the [`scroll-in-place'] package, beacuse i'm leo> annoyed at this jump by lines behaviour of next-line and leo> previous-line. leo> leo> but does `scroll-in-place' help with next-line/previous-line as leo> well. i guess it only help for scrolling, doen't it? Well, I guess it depends on your point of view. You're right that the `scroll-in-place' package is primarily intended as a replacement for Emacs' scrolling commands, not its point-motion (i.e., cursor motion) commands. But in many ways, the scrolling and point-motion commands aren't all that different. Scrolling command often change the location of point, and conversely, point-motion commands sometimes cause the window to scroll. As a practical matter, I wouldn't (and don't) use `scroll-in-place' to replace point-motion commands in general. When I invoke one of those commands, I expect point to move from its current screen position. But when I scroll, I want to "move" by having the text move beneath point, as if I had picked up my pen and moved the paper under it. Whether one moves the pen or the paper, the effect is similar (but not the same). The original question was about how to conveniently cause point to be located within a long line, and my answer describes a way that "moves the paper." But I wouldn't always move the paper --- it's too hard to write that way :-). Eric. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Eide . University of Utah School of Computing http://www.cs.utah.edu/~eeide/ . +1 (801) 585-5512 voice, +1 (801) 581-5843 FAX