From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Input methods (Emacs and others), plain X [was: Japanese input in Linux environment] Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2017 22:40:46 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20170607080206.GA3070@workstation> <20170607082638.GA18108@tuxteam.de> <20170607110620.GA24669@tuxteam.de> <20170607201832.GA15082@tuxteam.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1496868084 28225 195.159.176.226 (7 Jun 2017 20:41:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 20:41:24 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 07 22:41:20 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dIhlY-000736-83 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2017 22:41:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46060 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dIhld-0002ZP-Cg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2017 16:41:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38639) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dIhlD-0002Xt-Fz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2017 16:41:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dIhlA-0006lD-AG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2017 16:40:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=35806 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dIhlA-0006l2-4K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2017 16:40:56 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dIhl2-0005b8-Lq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2017 22:40:48 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:JipMtEHsZ2UB2f/bZbRLDrgAyt0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113398 Archived-At: > My significant one is a big GNU/Linux fan and > uses MATE. Choice is good :) Yes, the diversity is a strength and it is good that some people dream big because once in a blue moon they strike it big and something new and wonderful appears. As for me, I am at the other side of the spectrum where I'd like to be so close to the essentials being there all day everyday sometimes I can discover how to cut one gram, and of course no one will ever notice. Some are white-collar scientists, some are dreamers, and then there are obviously the best, the blue-collar doers and engineers... OK, I get it! But I think you downgraded the discussion from X, Gnome, and KDE. In a book I read that RMS (rms) was involved. Gnome was to be for the masses and KDE for the techno-druids. This is all I remember and I don't remember the name of the book either. It must have been good, but I lost it somehow. Still the purpose of the DEs isn't clear to me - and they seemed to have grown into exotic, underground hi-tech bases, run by criminal masterminds! Not the least by incorporating programs that was already existing (e.g., gnome-screenshot, gnome-terminal - ?!). Still we haven't touched upon Wayland, Mir, or Unity. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573