From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus mail with zoho.com Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 01:23:44 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87efwk324y.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1492903467 30370 195.159.176.226 (22 Apr 2017 23:24:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 23:24:27 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 23 01:24:23 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d24O6-0007ir-IX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 01:24:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37234 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d24OA-0007yD-Ng for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:24:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60612) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d24Ni-0007y8-8R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:23:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d24Nd-0008R4-Sa for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:23:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=47369 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d24Nd-0008Qt-Lv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:23:53 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d24NU-0006yT-V0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 01:23:44 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 58 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:y5mBFXjbjvgUGjdlnOJuz6qCTSI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:112857 Archived-At: Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > I suppose the first thing to do would be to > edebug `mail-source-fetch-pop' and run > through it -- at least that might give you > a more accurate view of what stage the error > is coming from... I did (now) but don't know the debugger at all, almost. My code never has any bugs, you see :) It seems `c' will take you forward to the strange question. Can I take the debugger one step back from that point and somehow get the current state? Anyway, oddly enough, this very problem seems to be related to the debugger! With (setq debug-on-error nil) I do get the question, that is Mail source (pop :user moasen :password *** pop.zoho.com :port 995) error (USER moasen not valid). Continue? (yes or no) but with (setq debug-on-error t) I don't get the question, instead this message just flickers by: Mail source (pop :user moasen :password xyz :server pop.zoho.com :port 995) failed: (error Cannot get new mail) Even ignoring the counterintuitiveness of that, it still doesn't seem to work, unless I repeatedly try until I don't get the message and do get the mail, if any. This is so confusing at this point it might be a configuration problem. But even that is difficult to asses because the Gnus setup is based on configuration. So the normal 'emacs -Q' to detect malconfiguration will cripple all of Gnus. Does anyone have a "minimal working example" (in the LaTeX lingo) with only Gnus and POP and nothing else to it? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573