From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: config problems and bisecting an org-mode configuration file Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 01:48:42 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87y3t75z7t.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87zidm10rz.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1496706567 11009 195.159.176.226 (5 Jun 2017 23:49:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 23:49:27 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 06 01:49:22 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dI1kQ-0002R5-2C for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 01:49:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35567 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dI1kT-0007pm-Jb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jun 2017 19:49:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50560) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dI1jz-0007pU-Ts for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jun 2017 19:48:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dI1jv-0007vO-4X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jun 2017 19:48:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=57582 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dI1ju-0007v9-U7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jun 2017 19:48:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dI1jn-0000TO-EY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 01:48:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:7c7Hqhpz01smj3WCCptt3zoSjjc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113364 Archived-At: Robert Thorpe wrote: > When Emacs configs are small they're > reasonably similar to configurations for > other programs. > > However, when they grow they are essentially > like programs. They're software development > problems in their own right. Yeah, I'm mean there is a silly perceived hierarchy to it. One guy makes a lousy PC-game no one ever plays and he makes a living out of it, another guy writes Elisp and is rich at heart... At some point you realize it doesn't really matter, just live and do whatever you want. > In that case I think it's useful to apply the > methods of large-scale software development. > Version control, for example. > > Perhaps you do that though. I don't think Sharon does that but she could, only from what we've heard it sounds more like everything is tangled up. If so, rather that continue with it until it breaks and then roll back to a sound state and start pushing all over again, I'd put my investment into breaking it up into neat units of code so that for example configuring org-mode won't break Gnus article mode and even basic Emacs functionality! -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573