From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Allan Gottlieb Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:53:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <873ajzwoqu.fsf@kobe.laptop> <9bceaf08-4a29-4593-be31-13e3b459763d@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <85myi4u5vw.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87ej3g2tob.fsf@blackbart.sedgenet> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1221875651 2824 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2008 01:54:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: tyler Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 20 03:55:08 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kgrgg-0003cf-9V for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:55:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51256 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kgrfe-0000Vb-N8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KgrfN-0000Ub-Eu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:53:45 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KgrfJ-0000Tw-G3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:53:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57821 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KgrfJ-0000Tt-9m for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:53:41 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu ([128.122.80.33]:46479) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KgrfJ-0002u2-7R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:53:41 -0400 Original-Received: from ajglap.localdomain (ool-4578d291.dyn.optonline.net [69.120.210.145]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8K1rdRX002505 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by ajglap.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1502) id BD06119D921; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:53:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87ej3g2tob.fsf@blackbart.sedgenet> (tyler's message of "Fri\, 19 Sep 2008 09\:42\:44 -0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57833 Archived-At: At Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:42:44 -0300 tyler wrote: > David Kastrup writes: > >> tyler writes: >> >>> Xah Lee writes: >>> >>>> =ABI think the existance of the lisp scratch buffer is one of the major >>>> usability problem of emacs that prevents emacs from being widely >>>> adopted by most text editing audience.=BB >>> >>> Ironically, I just used the scratch buffer as the repository for the >>> text of your previous message. rot13-region doesn't work in the >>> read-only gnus buffers, so I needed to transfer it to a different >>> buffer. >> >> C-c C-r works in gnus. Which does not mean that alternative ways are a >> bad idea. > > That combination is not defined for me in gnus, but it did lead me to > discover toggle-rot13-mode, which I *will* now bind to C-c C-r. Thanks! What version of emacs are you using? What happens if you are in a gnus summary buffer and type C-h k C-c C-r allan