From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:25:12 +0200 Message-ID: References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87fwys7qao.fsf@telefonica.net> <87hbj8qvd9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87iq3k68ye.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874of466rj.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pqxsbrie.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87k4nv7t72.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <19556.28233.750000.798692@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87aaoqjzge.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87mxsqzfam.fsf@telefonica.net> <87wrrue9sk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281943536 28029 80.91.229.12 (16 Aug 2010 07:25:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 16 09:25:35 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oku4c-0005z4-FF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:25:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46246 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oku4b-0005d9-Sq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 03:25:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47834 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oku4S-0005d4-Mq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 03:25:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oku4M-0004Eu-Gr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 03:25:24 -0400 Original-Received: from ebb06.tieto.com ([131.207.168.38]:52200) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oku4M-0004Ea-97 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 03:25:18 -0400 X-AuditID: 83cfa826-b7b8bae0000009e3-f8-4c68e7db0ece Original-Received: from FIHGA-EXHUB01.eu.tieto.com ( [131.207.136.34]) by ebb06.tieto.com (SMTP Mailer) with SMTP id F8.0E.02531.BD7E86C4; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:25:15 +0300 (EEST) Original-Received: from uw000509 (10.48.99.3) by inbound.tieto.com (131.207.136.49) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.176.0; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:25:15 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87wrrue9sk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Fri, 13 Aug 2010 19:50:51 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128783 Archived-At: >>>>> "Chong" == Chong Yidong writes: Chong> The current standard is used on all platforms: the key labelled Chong> "Alt" on the keyboard is handled internally by Emacs as Meta. Is this really correct? It would appear to me (though I have admittedly not checked the source) that emacs (under X11) uses as meta whatever modifier is assigned the Meta_* keysym, at least when present (probably there is some fallback mechanism). It just so happens that the standard modifier layout in most GNU/Linux distributions associates the Meta keysym with the key labelled "Alt". I have for a long time used the windows key as my meta key and that I have realised that simply by reshuffling the modifier keysyms via xmodmap. ------------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Christian Lynbech | christian #\@ defun #\. dk ------------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Hit the philistines three times over the head with the Elisp reference manual. - petonic@hal.com (Michael A. Petonic)