From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Guile in Emacs Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:26:06 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4B8147A9.7030504@gmail.com> <87aauiho3y.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <1271028837.6164.55.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <1271102739.6067.38.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <8039yz34ka.fsf@tiny.isode.net> <1271173887.6067.53.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <87ljcqqxoc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87sk6y2s45.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1271247998 9370 80.91.229.12 (14 Apr 2010 12:26:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: immanuel litzroth , David Kastrup , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 14 14:26:35 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O21fr-0003S0-OL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:26:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45221 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O21fr-0007Qb-0K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:26:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O21fj-0007Q9-Qs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:26:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44441 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O21fh-0007Pp-Qp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:26:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O21ff-00084M-7A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:26:21 -0400 Original-Received: from ebb05.tieto.com ([131.207.168.36]:55087) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O21fe-00083J-2S; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:26:19 -0400 X-AuditID: 83cfa824-b7cebae00000797f-f8-4bc5b46726f2 Original-Received: from FIHGA-EXHUB01.eu.tieto.com ( [131.207.136.34]) by ebb05.tieto.com (SMTP Mailer) with SMTP id E0.25.31103.764B5CB4; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:26:15 +0300 (EEST) Original-Received: from uw000509 (10.48.99.3) by inbound.tieto.com (131.207.136.49) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.176.0; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:26:14 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87sk6y2s45.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:25:30 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.95 (gnu/linux) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:123627 Archived-At: >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull writes: Stephen> That's hardly a recommendation -- window managers are not very Stephen> demanding of performance. True, though one could argue that anything that sits between you and your windows will be very visible if there is even the slightest lag. Anyway, I just wanted to say that the performance issues of Guile is not the most overwhelming problem we face (and I haven't touched Guile in years so I do not actually know how it competes these days). I am certainly prepared to believe that Guile is faster than the current Emacs Lisp engine but I am also absolutely convinced that unless it has improved radically it will fall noticeably behind systems that compiles to native code, whether directly or via C. ------------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Christian Lynbech | christian #\@ defun #\. dk ------------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Hit the philistines three times over the head with the Elisp reference manual. - petonic@hal.com (Michael A. Petonic)