From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Guile in Emacs Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:34:08 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4B8147A9.7030504@gmail.com> <3vsk8ecg6a.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <873a0euot4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <873a0cyv3r.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87aauiho3y.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <1271028837.6164.55.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <1271102739.6067.38.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <8039yz34ka.fsf@tiny.isode.net> <1271173887.6067.53.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <1271272025.6576.49.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1271323800 5403 80.91.229.12 (15 Apr 2010 09:30:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "bruce.stephens@isode.com" , Christian Lynbech , "rms@gnu.org" , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Thomas Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 15 11:29:53 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O2LOR-0003eu-8A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:29:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51603 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O2LOQ-0000Gt-8M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:29:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O2LOG-0000Gn-3a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:29:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47427 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O2LOD-0000Gf-CK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:29:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O2LOC-0005f3-AM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:29:37 -0400 Original-Received: from ebb06.tieto.com ([131.207.168.38]:45972) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O2Jqt-0004ph-M7; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:51:08 -0400 X-AuditID: 83cfa826-b7c95ae000001320-2b-4bc6c1da53b1 Original-Received: from FIHGA-EXHUB01.eu.tieto.com ( [131.207.136.34]) by ebb06.tieto.com (SMTP Mailer) with SMTP id C8.59.04896.DC1C6CB4; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:35:59 +0300 (EEST) Original-Received: from uw000509 (10.48.99.3) by inbound.tieto.com (131.207.136.49) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.176.0; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:34:11 +0300 In-Reply-To: <1271272025.6576.49.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> (Thomas Lord's message of "Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:07:05 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.95 (gnu/linux) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:123696 Archived-At: >>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Lord writes: Thomas> If the only serious difference between GNU Emacs and Thomas> a new Scheme-based GNU Emacs were a change in extension Thomas> language - then there would be little point in bothering. Theses points have been made more or less in several places already but just to reiterate, changing the extension language to a more widely used language variant, even if everything else stays the same, would have several benefits: - faster execution of also emacs lisp code - shared burden of maintenance for the language platform - ability to load up (external) libaries written in the new language - a platform to evolve also the emacs lisp parts into safer/better/faster - a platform to evolve C parts back into the extension language realm What kind of future this would lead Emacs into is hard to say but it would certainly facilitate many great things. I agree with you that, as on example, being able to move functionality from back into scheme or elisp or whatever will be a very exiticing thing. ------------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Christian Lynbech | christian #\@ defun #\. dk ------------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Hit the philistines three times over the head with the Elisp reference manual. - petonic@hal.com (Michael A. Petonic)