From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20389: A way to communicate announcements to developers Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:56:23 -0400 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429567034 809 80.91.229.3 (20 Apr 2015 21:57:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:57:14 +0000 (UTC) To: 20389@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 20 23:57:07 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YkJgg-0007jI-Hj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 23:57:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55463 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkJgg-00078d-30 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:57:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48543) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkJgd-00078I-87 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:57:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkJgc-0004Tl-98 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:57:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44163) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkJgc-0004Th-63 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkJgc-0002rI-0R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:57:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 20389 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.142956698610937 (code B ref -1); Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:57:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2015 21:56:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33939 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkJg2-0002qK-54 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:56:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:60750 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkJg0-0002qD-Eh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:56:24 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkJg0-0003ay-1T; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:56:24 -0400 X-Spook: nitrate satellite imagery Mahmoud Ahmadinejad X-Ran: 6s|t$e[)lb List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:101786 Archived-At: Package: emacs Severity: wishlist Version: 24.5 (Bug report to remind about http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-12/msg00851.html) Please create a mechanism to communicate important announcements (feature freezes, etc) to emacs developers. No-one should have to read (all of) emacs-devel, it's too noisy. And the info-gnu-emacs list is not appropriate for this IMO. FWIW, here's what I would do. It'd only take a few mins to set up: 1. Go to https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/admin/emacs-devel/topics 2. Enable topic filter. 3. Add topic name "emacs-announce"; regexp "emacs-announce"; description "announcements all Emacs developers should read". (Using just "announce" may lead to false positives?) 4. Document that developers should subscribe to emacs-devel and at least subscribe to the "emacs-announce" topic. Whether or not they also choose to "receive messages that do not match any topic filter" is up to the individual. 5. Use "Keywords: emacs-announce" in the header of relevant mails. Better (?) to use keywords: than the subject: header, to avoid all the replies to said subject being sent out as announcements too. If you forget to add it to a message, you or anyone else can just resend it.