From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Subversion of user chosen major mode by Emacs. Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 15:45:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86r0dmtbk2.fsf@gnu.org> <63afa31a-7874-4d1f-a17a-14a64ba516cb@gutov.dev> <4197c4a8-ee12-4fa7-9201-4d26f3be59c6@gutov.dev> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36594"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Dmitry Gutov , Stefan Monnier , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 29 21:46:36 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sCPFr-0009Jo-D6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 May 2024 21:46:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sCPEz-0002rT-My; Wed, 29 May 2024 15:45:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sCPEx-0002qr-13 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2024 15:45:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sCPEv-0006Ff-Ps; Wed, 29 May 2024 15:45:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=IibVv4i/WdohByaj722WiMLwPJJfdvDZYCcDC/Wpsb8=; b=dSiNtxZ+ri4km+bF/t20 LSp3uaLIdc3tKVo2C19YhLrl9tfnTMLGZlGmFtZpW3anJ7gMJOIFU5IJB9iHec/IH2vEXYSiRDmus TYs3Vhs7tTlHRsJg9tG6A0d4O7Egye0/oh99RS/4qGW5hCtZfGz1FfIn6mp04+l/152Eu4yggOwrc YCjdHJRzgjBoRu8ZA4jNqNjDggrX6XtXR1IpSUKsDqMqnsIuEeUucGUh2uvTLf/5ygeBbgMb+h3zi KNfQh6juqAcb47nzA3/gCN7yynShmW/2cZ6dLQObMPgo+J2g+Au91NOCnXZZ1TShS6sbJS+dozSm3 VFBqLlL01+mYdg==; Original-Received: from acorallo by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sCPEv-0006Jx-8q; Wed, 29 May 2024 15:45:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Wed, 29 May 2024 19:22:13 +0000") X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319707 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie writes: [...] > To be clear, what I find unacceptable is Emacs maintainers presuming to > override options explicitly set by the user with settings the maintainers > think are better. That is the purpose of major-mode-remap-defaults. > There are other, better ways to set up c-ts-mode as the default default > mode for C files. Hi Alan, please assume the good faith of the other developers here. 'major-mode-remap-defaults' was added for (valid or not) technical reasons and it might very well come with (good or bad) consequences we can discuss, but there's no conspiracy here. Thanks Andrea