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From: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: igc: trying to chase a crash
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:02:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yp1o720iutk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ldx5ymbb.fsf@telefonica.net> ("Óscar Fuentes"'s message of "Wed, 27 Nov 2024 11:59:20 +0100")

Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es> writes:

> Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>>> Yeah that's a great point!  For me building igc was not trivial.  MPS
>>>> doesn't come with distros and the experience of compiling it from source
>>>> wasn't great, the instructions in the codebase were conflicting plus I
>>>> had to manually patch the codebase as OOB was not compiling.  Finally
>>>> Emacs has to find it during compilation, otherwise I think it will
>>>> silently revert to the standard GC even if configured for it.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe some of this is fixed now I'm not sure, but these are all hard
>>>> barriers for users, clear and detailed instructions would be much needed
>>>> for a more spread use of it.
>
> That reflects my experience as well.
>
> Figuring out what is needed is the long and frustrating part, by far.
> Once this is done, it's just a sligthly customized emacs build process.
>
>>> Wouldn't it perhaps be better to clone mps to savannah (with our patches) and add it as a sub-module to emacs? 
>>> Then initialize it if 'configure' is invoked with the --with-mps switch.
>>> If it were to become such a fundamental piece of emacs perhaps it would be better to be more independent.
>>
>> If we decide MPS needs to be forked I think would be more convenient to
>> have it directly inside the Emacs tree.
>>
>> BTW, I think if the user explicitly uses --with-mps the configuration
>> should fail if MPS is not available.
>
> +1000.
>
> I can't fathom why if I say --with-something the configure script can
> ignore my request and I must scroll up a wall of text to test if that
> was the case.

Yeah I don't know how much the current behavior of most flags was
intentional, I'm not in love with it as well, but I guess there's a
reason for it.

  Andtrea



  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-27 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-25 18:48 igc: trying to chase a crash Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-25 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-25 19:53   ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-25 20:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-25 20:51       ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-26  3:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-26  5:17         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-26 18:29           ` chad
2024-11-26 21:39             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27  5:28               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27  7:50                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27  7:55                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27  8:52                     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27  9:12                       ` Gregor Zattler
2024-11-27  9:26                         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 10:02                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 10:25                             ` icg build instructions [was: Re: igc: trying to chase a crash] Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 11:12                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 11:51                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-27 14:23                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 13:43                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 13:49                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 14:16                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-28 12:46                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-28 12:55                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-28 13:00                                     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-11-28 14:10                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-27 15:10                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-28  4:42                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-28  9:35                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-27 10:40                           ` igc: trying to chase a crash Vincenzo Pupillo
2024-11-27 10:44                             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 10:59                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-27 15:02                                 ` Andrea Corallo [this message]
2024-11-27 11:16                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 13:47                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 14:48                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 15:04                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-27 12:37                               ` Jeff Walsh
2024-11-27 15:11                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-27  9:55                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 10:01                         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 10:08                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 10:18                             ` scratch/igc as a feature branch [was: Re: igc: trying to chase a crash] Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 15:08                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-28 10:56                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-28 11:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-28 12:54                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-28 12:57                                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-11-28 13:12                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-12 10:20                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-28 15:43                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 15:06                         ` igc: trying to chase a crash Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-28  4:46                           ` Gerd Möllmann

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