From: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: igc: trying to chase a crash
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:02:15 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yp1o720iutk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ldx5ymbb.fsf@telefonica.net> ("Óscar Fuentes"'s message of "Wed, 27 Nov 2024 11:59:20 +0100")
Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es> writes:
> Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>>> Yeah that's a great point! For me building igc was not trivial. MPS
>>>> doesn't come with distros and the experience of compiling it from source
>>>> wasn't great, the instructions in the codebase were conflicting plus I
>>>> had to manually patch the codebase as OOB was not compiling. Finally
>>>> Emacs has to find it during compilation, otherwise I think it will
>>>> silently revert to the standard GC even if configured for it.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe some of this is fixed now I'm not sure, but these are all hard
>>>> barriers for users, clear and detailed instructions would be much needed
>>>> for a more spread use of it.
>
> That reflects my experience as well.
>
> Figuring out what is needed is the long and frustrating part, by far.
> Once this is done, it's just a sligthly customized emacs build process.
>
>>> Wouldn't it perhaps be better to clone mps to savannah (with our patches) and add it as a sub-module to emacs?
>>> Then initialize it if 'configure' is invoked with the --with-mps switch.
>>> If it were to become such a fundamental piece of emacs perhaps it would be better to be more independent.
>>
>> If we decide MPS needs to be forked I think would be more convenient to
>> have it directly inside the Emacs tree.
>>
>> BTW, I think if the user explicitly uses --with-mps the configuration
>> should fail if MPS is not available.
>
> +1000.
>
> I can't fathom why if I say --with-something the configure script can
> ignore my request and I must scroll up a wall of text to test if that
> was the case.
Yeah I don't know how much the current behavior of most flags was
intentional, I'm not in love with it as well, but I guess there's a
reason for it.
Andtrea
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-27 15:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-25 18:48 igc: trying to chase a crash Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-25 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-25 19:53 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-25 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-25 20:51 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-26 3:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-26 5:17 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-26 18:29 ` chad
2024-11-26 21:39 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 5:28 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 7:50 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 7:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 8:52 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 9:12 ` Gregor Zattler
2024-11-27 9:26 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 10:02 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 10:25 ` icg build instructions [was: Re: igc: trying to chase a crash] Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 11:12 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 11:51 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-27 14:23 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 13:43 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 13:49 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 14:16 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-28 12:46 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-28 12:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-28 13:00 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-11-28 14:10 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-27 15:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-28 4:42 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-28 9:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-27 10:40 ` igc: trying to chase a crash Vincenzo Pupillo
2024-11-27 10:44 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 10:59 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-27 15:02 ` Andrea Corallo [this message]
2024-11-27 11:16 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 13:47 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 14:48 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 15:04 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-27 12:37 ` Jeff Walsh
2024-11-27 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-27 9:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 10:01 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 10:08 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 10:18 ` scratch/igc as a feature branch [was: Re: igc: trying to chase a crash] Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 15:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-28 10:56 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-28 11:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-28 12:54 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-28 12:57 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-11-28 13:12 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-12 10:20 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-28 15:43 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 15:06 ` igc: trying to chase a crash Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-28 4:46 ` Gerd Möllmann
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