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From: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
To: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
Cc: chad <yandros@gmail.com>, "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: igc: trying to chase a crash
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:01:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yp1ldx5j8qn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m25xo957d7.fsf@gmail.com> ("Gerd Möllmann"'s message of "Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:55:00 +0100")

Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com> writes:

> Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org> writes:
>>>
>>>>> I get the same feeling. Something is a bit odd.
>>>>
>>>> I don't find this too odd, I have my own ideas about the reasons for
>>>> this difference.
>>>
>>> Care to share your thoughts?
>>
>> Sure if it's of interest: my idea of few things that helped a lot native
>> comp in gaining traction at time:
>>
>> - publishing simple blog posts summarizing and explaining the progresses
>>   of the branch [1]
>>
>> - native-comp being a feature branch, this clarified that the goal was
>>   merging to master (IOW something which was probably likely to happen)
>>   and that the branch was trackable by users.  That's why I suggested
>>   more than once this solution in the past.
>>
>> - publishing some positive performance numbers in order to explain/prove
>>   the soundness of the approach.
>>
>> That said, users were very interested and gave a lot of good feedbacks
>> and bug reports (my impression more than for igc), but the number of
>> developers involved I'm pretty sure was not higher than what igc got
>> already.
>
> Yes, thanks, that's interesting, for me at least, because I wasn't there
> at the time.
>
> So, you did a ton of work, also outside the technical aspects, to get it
> in, certainly requiring a very strong motivation and will power over a
> long time.
>
> If that's a requirement, maybe it is the reason why users are ignoring
> igc, indeed. And in that case, the question would be, if the project or
> some individual(s) could or want to do something similar. Which I can't
> answer. I won't do it, though, which I think I said already too often.
> And, from my POV, no one can be blamed for not having that stamina.

Absolutely, still I think few things are probably really low cost (the
feature branch comes to my mind).

  Andrea



  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-27 10:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-25 18:48 igc: trying to chase a crash Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-25 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-25 19:53   ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-25 20:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-25 20:51       ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-26  3:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-26  5:17         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-26 18:29           ` chad
2024-11-26 21:39             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27  5:28               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27  7:50                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27  7:55                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27  8:52                     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27  9:12                       ` Gregor Zattler
2024-11-27  9:26                         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 10:02                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 10:25                             ` icg build instructions [was: Re: igc: trying to chase a crash] Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 11:12                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 11:51                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-27 14:23                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 13:43                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 13:49                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 14:16                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-28 12:46                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-28 12:55                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-28 13:00                                     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-11-28 14:10                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-27 15:10                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-28  4:42                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-28  9:35                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-27 10:40                           ` igc: trying to chase a crash Vincenzo Pupillo
2024-11-27 10:44                             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 10:59                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-27 15:02                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 11:16                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 13:47                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 14:48                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 15:04                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-11-27 12:37                               ` Jeff Walsh
2024-11-27 15:11                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-27  9:55                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 10:01                         ` Andrea Corallo [this message]
2024-11-27 10:08                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-27 10:18                             ` scratch/igc as a feature branch [was: Re: igc: trying to chase a crash] Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 15:08                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-28 10:56                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-28 11:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-28 12:54                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-28 12:57                                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-11-28 13:12                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-12 10:20                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-28 15:43                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-27 15:06                         ` igc: trying to chase a crash Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-28  4:46                           ` Gerd Möllmann

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