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From: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org,  Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	mattias.engdegard@gmail.com,  stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Introducing 'safety' compilation parameter
Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 13:58:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yp1ikzlv99t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yp1ttj9y4zz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Andrea Corallo's message of "Tue, 07 May 2024 12:13:36 -0400")

Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org> writes:

> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>
>>> I didn't want to give safety a prefix (byte- or comp-) as I believe we
>>> should extend safety in the future with a value to have the byte
>>> compiler generates runtime type checks to verify the declred types.
>>
>> I don't see a strong need for a namespace prefix, but I think "safety"
>> is too general a term.  It could be understood to apply also to
>> unrelated circumstances such as process confinement or disclosure of
>> sensitive info over a network connection.
>> Maybe `elisp-safety` or `compilation-safety`?
>
> Agree, boths SGTM, maaaybe I slightly prefer 'compilation-safety'.
>
>> If I read your patch correctly, we get safety in a roundabout way:
>> rather than test the safety setting at the spot where we decide to apply
>> (or not) a dangerous optimization, we use the safety setting to
>> "mollify" the type annotations (presumably because this will in turn
>> make the risky optimizations inapplicable).
>>
>> What is the reason for that?
>
> No specific reason, I think I thought was safer to write the patch with
> way gating optimization at this (higher) level.  Thinking about now that
> you raised the point, is probably easy to gate the single optimizations
> as well.  Why not, I think I'll update the patch this way.

Okay I pushed scratch/comp-safety2 changing the knob name to
'compilation-safety' and gating the dangerous optimizations as
discussed.

Thanks

  Andrea



  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-10 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-07 10:37 Introducing 'safety' compilation parameter Andrea Corallo
2024-05-07 12:01 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-05-07 13:15   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-07 16:07     ` Drifting towards a statically typed Emacs Lisp. [Was: Introducing 'safety' compilation parameter] Alan Mackenzie
2024-05-07 17:06       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-07 23:37         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-05-07 18:00       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08  0:14         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-05-07 23:29       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-05-09 23:52       ` Richard Stallman
2024-05-10  6:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-07 16:37   ` Introducing 'safety' compilation parameter Tomas Hlavaty
2024-05-07 16:54   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-07 23:42     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-05-07 14:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-07 16:13   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-10 17:58     ` Andrea Corallo [this message]
2024-05-13  2:29       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-13 18:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-13 21:12           ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-14  6:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-09  8:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-10  7:47   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-10 10:17     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-10 11:42       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-10 15:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-10 18:02   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-10 18:05     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-09  9:19 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-05-10  7:58   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-10  8:09     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-05-10  8:19       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-10 14:00     ` Stefan Monnier

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