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From: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Jeremy Bryant <jb@jeremybryant.net>,  emacs-devel@gnu.org,  rms@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2024 08:03:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yp1h6bwk09q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86h6bwoaa7.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 07 Aug 2024 14:13:52 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Jeremy Bryant <jb@jeremybryant.net>
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org,  rms@gnu.org
>> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2024 20:09:30 +0100
>> 
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> 
>> >> From: Jeremy Bryant <jb@jeremybryant.net>
>> >> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2024 23:27:39 +0100
>> >> 
>> >> Reviewing the Emacs website, and previous discussions on this list below
>> >> (admittedly not recent, but still relevant).  It seems important to add
>> >> some text on Lisp which is not currently there, as per ideas of RMS and
>> >> Eli summarised below.
>> >
>> > Why is this important?
>> 
>> It appeared to be an outstanding documentation item to add to the
>> website, using the summary text written from RMS.
>> 
>> I personally believe it is important and useful in the context of an
>> introduction to Emacs such as the website.  For new users, or indeed
>> new contributors, Emacs Lisp may appear an intriguing choice, and that
>> summary offers a compelling reason for Lisp.
>
> It is hard to find a good place there to talk about these aspects.
> The site introduces Emacs as an editor, and describes its important
> features.  Emacs being Emacs, that list is long, but far from
> comprehensive.  We could add a paragraph about Lisp there, but then
> (a) it would be most probably lost in the (quite long) introduction,
> and (b) there are many more aspects of Emacs of the same importance
> that could be added, and we must draw the line somewhere.
>
> The way the site solves this dilemma is to focus on user-facing
> features.  The fact that Emacs is written in Lisp doesn't fit, IMO.

Agree



  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-07 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-04 22:27 Emacs website, Lisp, and other Jeremy Bryant
2024-08-04 22:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05  4:29   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05  9:23   ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-05 10:43     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05 11:37       ` divya
2024-08-05 11:56         ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-05 12:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 11:45       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-05 12:56       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-05 13:16         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-05 14:46           ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-05 21:28             ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-05 14:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 12:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 16:27       ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 (was: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other) Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05 16:38         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 17:03           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05 18:32             ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-05 20:20               ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-06  7:14                 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-06  7:21                   ` Org mode API (was: 10 problems with Elisp, part 10) Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-06  8:23                     ` Org mode API Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-10 16:55                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-06 11:54                   ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-08  2:01                     ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-09 22:39                       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-13  1:28                         ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-09 22:46                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10  5:41                       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10  6:09                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13  1:28                       ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-05 18:58             ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 (was: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other) Christopher Dimech
2024-08-05 19:30               ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-05 20:02                 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-08  2:01                   ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-06  2:28                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 17:13         ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 (was: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other) Yuri Khan
2024-08-06  6:39         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-06 11:16         ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-06 22:08           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05 20:03   ` Emacs website, Lisp, and other Alan Mackenzie
2024-08-05 21:07     ` Christopher Dimech via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2024-08-06  7:42     ` Jean Louis
2024-08-06 11:14     ` Immanuel Litzroth
2024-08-05 11:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-06 19:09   ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-08-06 19:50     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-06 20:35       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-08-06 22:10         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-06 22:48           ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-06 23:09           ` Drew Adams
2024-08-06 23:21             ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-07  1:09               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-06 22:26         ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-07  5:45         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15  3:53           ` Madhu
2024-08-15  5:50             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15  9:17               ` Madhu
2024-08-15  9:57                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15  6:17             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15  7:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-15  8:06               ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15  9:27                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15 16:03                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-07 11:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-07 12:03       ` Andrea Corallo [this message]
2024-08-07 12:16       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-08  2:01         ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-08  6:51           ` Joel Reicher
2024-08-07 12:31     ` Christopher Dimech
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-08-06 13:13 Abraham S.A.H. via Emacs development discussions.
2024-08-07  7:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-07 11:24   ` Christopher Dimech

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