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From: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
To: Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com>
Cc: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>,
	"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>,
	stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: Merging scratch/no-purespace to remove unexec and purespace
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 05:38:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yp1ed249cu6.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875xng9g48.fsf@protonmail.com> (Pip Cet's message of "Thu, 19 Dec 2024 09:28:57 +0000")

Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com> writes:

> "Andrea Corallo" <acorallo@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com> writes:
>>>> IOW, the old code happened not to run into this problem because
>>>> lambda-fixup was pure, and we never applied the sanity checks to the
>>>> pure section.
>>>
>>> Just to be clear: the code on master is fine.  I misunderstood it when
>>> modifying it for purespace removal, resulting in my bug which Gerd
>>> discovered and fixed.  The code on no-purespace is also fine now, but
>>> it's Andrea's call whether he wants some of the checking code restored,
>>> and how.
>>>
>>>> My suggestion is to fix the "sanity check" on the master branch, change
>>>> it to apply to pure relocs there, and restore the fixed check on
>>>> scratch/no-purespace afterwards.
>>>
>>> Please ignore that. My suggestion is to EXTEND the sanity check on the
>>> master branch to cover pure and impure relocs, and restore the EXTENDED
>>> check before merging scratch/no-purespace.
>>>
>>> There is no bug to fix on master.
>>
>> Right your analysis is correct, the new code in the branch just made the
>> symbol 'fixup-lambda' not compilable.
>>
>> I restored the check and applied a variant of your fix with a comment
>> around.  scratch/no-purespace work for me now.
>
> Just to summarize this:
> There's now a forbidden symbol, --lambda-fixup.  If you use this symbol
> in your code and compile the code with nativecomp, that may appear to work,
> but loading the resulting object file into another Emacs will crash that
> Emacs, if that Emacs was built with checks enabled.

Correct, maybe we should use 'comp--lambda-fixup' so it's even more
evidently private to the compiler, not sure if would be worth using a
different kind of placeholder object.

>> On master I don't think I see what we should do and the motivation for.
>
> The scratch/no-purespace branch now tests things more rigorously than
> the master branch does: master performs three checks on all impure
> relocations and a single check on pure ones, but scratch/no-purespace
> performs all three checks on all relocations.
>
> That means when we merge scratch/no-purespace, and hit one of the new
> assertions, it may be (and was, in Gerd's case) because the test would
> have failed on the master branch but was never performed there, and that
> would be unrelated to purespace removal.
>
> What I think we should do doesn't really matter, but it seems quite
> obvious to me that we should make the code on the master branch perform
> all three checks on all relocations, as the code on no-purespace does.

master doesn't have forbidden symbols that can't be stored in data_vec
so why should we test for that?



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-19 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-17 10:47 Merging scratch/no-purespace to remove unexec and purespace Stefan Kangas
2024-12-17 13:12 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 14:20   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 14:30     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 17:56       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 18:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-17 18:56           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-18 12:55             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-18 14:03               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-18 16:05                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18 16:30                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-18 16:25                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18 22:27                   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-19  9:28                     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-19 10:38                       ` Andrea Corallo [this message]
2024-12-19 10:50                       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-19 12:08                         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-19 17:55                           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-19 20:13                             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-20 15:59                               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-20 16:22                                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-20 17:25                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-20 20:35                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-20 20:39                                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-21  6:33                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-21  6:56                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-20 20:38                                     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-20 20:57                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-20  8:42                             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18  0:18         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-17 19:30 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-17 20:47   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-18  2:15     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-18  7:11       ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-18 13:35         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18  6:56     ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-21 17:41       ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-21 18:32         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-22  1:28         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-18  9:30   ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18  0:50 ` Po Lu
2024-12-18  2:12   ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-18 21:26   ` Stefan Monnier

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