From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add more supported primitives in libgccjit IR Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 01:04:11 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20230809094655.793FC18A4654@snark.thyrsus.com> <831qfxw2cx.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8d95918.fsf@localhost> <87zg2lav4b.fsf@yahoo.com> <87sf8d57wf.fsf@localhost> <87r0nxatu1.fsf@yahoo.com> <87pm3h56ig.fsf@localhost> <87edjxarhz.fsf@yahoo.com> <87edjw4uw4.fsf@localhost> <77daee02cf1ba0db70c1@heytings.org> <87v8d8fzr9.fsf@localhost> <87jztofwqm.fsf@localhost> <83cyzgvb70.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyze6pb4.fsf@localhost> <87y1hx460x.fsf@dataswamp.org> <874jklrl37.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87y1hwqgb6.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29374"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 28 07:05:08 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qaUR2-0007Ot-Bx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2023 07:05:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaUQA-0006Q2-AA; Mon, 28 Aug 2023 01:04:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaUQ8-0006PY-CK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2023 01:04:12 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaUQ8-0003Tk-3R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2023 01:04:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=bR0M0YsDCV3HrFX/f7HCk8MfAeRU7KaoYSA38KVTS1E=; b=pLZAkD9m7lfq8kpR6PL1 k+2eiAb/2AyoYLOp6QP9qapWdg8sLtEilz4JH7MHNocRPzN9RG6LedmI7YUbAq64ewrjJRJsYpHz+ wILTHUIkTLM7UUl7w0ZUGn2QUbfWxKqYkZu0nIOkqbWKg8t6cBg4JPFNbSqsQ3vVP2TXgLq0WMbKR WDaaX1X+i7EBgSgKQHil/pWlKrJNhT5HTbU8JAs2udvxVg1fJAIjl8Pz1UGqgtvR9X+VV/gfdcN35 079ThUFzsunu0qW2y7bFCGrMUEMSuOcFEVKZniyc4wEr3GoPsALluBQOS3QCjBM1giVBPNbDrQA6e CvsCMzTD/wGisw==; Original-Received: from acorallo by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaUQ7-00038O-SU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2023 01:04:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87y1hwqgb6.fsf@dataswamp.org> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Mon, 28 Aug 2023 00:19:25 +0200") X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309401 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > Andrea Corallo wrote: > >>>> The only trace I have been able to find of either are >>>> functions in C, built-in functions in the Emacs lingo, for >>>> example `+', if you do `describe-function' on that you see >>>> in the docstring >>>> >>>> Type: (function (&rest (or marker number)) number) >>> >>> Lisp functions also get their types inferred, sometimes, >> >> AFAIK all native compiled Lisp functions are type inferred. > > You are right, those who don't have types are those that are > only byte-compiled! But then why are they not native-compiled > as well? I think the functions inside lexical let-closures, i.e. > > (let (( ... )) > (defun ... ) ) > > are not natively compiled. > > See the file that I yank last, none of those functions are or > get natively-compiled. I can't find your code now but as of today Closures is the last bit we don't compile. >>> Maybe function that are made up of functions that have >>> their types inferred also get their types inferred ... >> >> Of course they are typed as well, but we can use the types >> of the called functions for propagations as they can be >> redefined in every moment. > > We can? Apologies for the typo, wanted to write _can't_. Andrea