From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F?= Kayaalp Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29550: 27.0.50; `not-modified' should be disabled by default Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 13:06:18 +0300 Message-ID: References: <83fu8ryxhq.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512468455 6803 195.159.176.226 (5 Dec 2017 10:07:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 10:07:35 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 29550@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 05 11:07:22 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eMA8E-0000we-B4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 11:07:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47469 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMA8H-0004Md-Gh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 05:07:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43182) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMA87-0004LM-N1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 05:07:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMA7y-000517-Bb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 05:07:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:37736) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMA7y-000511-8K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 05:07:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eMA7y-00018z-27 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 05:07:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F?= Kayaalp Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 10:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29550 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 29550-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29550.15124683834352 (code B ref 29550); Tue, 05 Dec 2017 10:07:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29550) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2017 10:06:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46417 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eMA7L-000188-17 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 05:06:23 -0500 Original-Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:54282) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eMA7J-000180-ME for 29550@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 05:06:22 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 46.2.227.80 Original-Received: from alpha.alpha (unknown [46.2.227.80]) (Authenticated sender: self@gkayaalp.com) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1686AC5A7B; Tue, 5 Dec 2017 11:06:18 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 04 Dec 2017 12:58:28 -0500") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:140724 Archived-At: On 2017-12-04 12:58 -05, Glenn Morris wrote: > Previous times this came up: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2005-04/msg00182.html > (a prolific and, err, idiosyncratic reporter) > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2006-02/msg00414.html > (previous maintainer) Here we have a *maintainer* that has lost some data accidentally hitting this key. > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2006-02/msg00395.html > (previous+N maintainer) > > Obviously, this calls for a poll! > > (Please don't have a poll.) Why not? It might be the case that this command has now became less popular (for example it's not mentioned in the C-h t tutorial). Given how easy it's to re-enable it for its users, I see no reason for not disabling it by default for protecting the uninitiated. Quoting "(emacs) Disabling": ,---- | Disabling a command means that invoking it interactively asks for | confirmation from the user. The purpose of disabling a command is to | prevent users from executing it by accident; we do this for commands | that might be confusing to the uninitiated. `---- (on a side note, shouldn't =E2=80=98en/disable-command=E2=80=99 use =E2=80= =98custom-file=E2=80=99 or =E2=80=98user-init-file=E2=80=99 instead of trying to locate .emacs itself?) --=20 =C4=B0. G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F Kayaalp 024C 30DD 597D 142B 49AC 40EB 465C D949 B101 2427