From: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@cante.net>
Cc: Andries Brouwer <Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, jari.aalto@cante.net, acm@muc.de,
snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: cc-mode adds newlines version=2.64
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:59:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <y8gpx6m2.fsf@blue.sea.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1101042567.942507.22881.nullmailer@Update.UU.SE> (Alfred M. Szmidt's message of "Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:09:27 +0100")
"Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@kemisten.nu> writes:
| > And require-final-newline is not good enough for you? You need a
| > separate c-require-final-newline?
| >
| > Did it occur to you
|
| You did not answer the question.
|
| It is not relevant what I want, but what everyone else wants. Emacs
| is not _my_ editor, but the editor of several thousand people. It
| should have such defaults that make sense for the general cases, and
| should have variables/hooks that can be modifed for those cases where
| the person dislikes the defaults.
It is good to have good defaults, but the principle should be:
No expected changes
This is just plain common sense. The editor should not make changes to
files, because then it may cause unexpected consequences:
all the sudden version control thinks that files have changes
because (C or other mode) decided to make changes.
It should be left to user's control. All those final-newline* settings
should be removed and instruct users to add hooks functions
(or enable features) if they really want those settings active.
Jari
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Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <mailman.3671.1100818498.8225.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-18 23:23 ` cc-mode adds newlines Kevin Rodgers
2004-11-19 0:46 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-11-18 23:31 ` Jari Aalto
2004-11-18 23:31 ` Jari Aalto
2004-11-19 20:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-11-19 23:13 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-20 0:13 ` Miles Bader
2004-11-20 15:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-11-21 2:08 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 10:00 ` Miles Bader
2004-11-21 11:38 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 12:08 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2004-11-21 12:45 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 12:58 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2004-11-21 13:03 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 13:09 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2004-11-25 15:59 ` Jari Aalto [this message]
2004-11-22 0:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-11-21 12:53 ` Miles Bader
2004-11-21 13:00 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 13:14 ` David Kastrup
2004-11-21 13:35 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 13:41 ` David Kastrup
2004-11-21 13:54 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 15:54 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-11-21 11:06 ` David Kastrup
2004-11-21 11:45 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 12:08 ` David Kastrup
2004-11-21 11:41 ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-11-21 12:26 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 12:34 ` David Kastrup
2004-11-21 12:49 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 13:08 ` David Kastrup
2004-11-21 13:28 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 13:37 ` David Kastrup
2004-11-21 13:43 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 13:51 ` David Kastrup
2004-11-21 14:03 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 15:01 ` David Kastrup
2004-11-21 15:08 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-22 19:21 ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-11-21 15:18 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-11-21 15:36 ` Andries Brouwer
[not found] ` <01c4d003$Blat.v2.2.2$3d9a05c0@zahav.net.il>
2004-11-21 21:28 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-22 4:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-11-22 9:04 ` David Kastrup
2004-11-21 13:52 ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-11-21 14:29 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 15:07 ` David Kastrup
2004-11-21 15:20 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 19:03 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2004-11-21 21:19 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 21:46 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2004-11-21 22:19 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-22 11:54 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2004-11-22 15:54 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-22 16:56 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-11-21 15:50 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-11-22 19:20 ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-11-24 10:12 ` Kai Grossjohann
[not found] ` <01c4d002$Blat.v2.2.2$50b57dc0@zahav.net.il>
2004-11-21 21:21 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-22 4:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-11-22 0:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-11-22 14:07 ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-22 15:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-11-22 19:16 ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-11-22 20:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-11-24 2:27 ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-24 4:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-11-28 14:45 ` Martin Stjernholm
2004-11-29 6:11 ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-30 10:51 ` Martin Stjernholm
2004-12-01 2:56 ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-21 14:47 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-11-21 15:03 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-21 15:39 ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-21 21:47 ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-11-23 16:30 ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-25 2:21 ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-25 20:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
[not found] ` <mailman.3684.1100821293.8225.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-19 0:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-11-19 20:04 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <mailman.56.1100895632.27204.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-19 22:00 ` Hallvard B Furuseth
2004-11-21 15:38 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <mailman.416.1101052189.27204.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-22 5:55 ` Paul D. Smith
[not found] ` <mailman.619.1101127694.27204.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-22 18:55 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.723.1101150150.27204.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-22 19:37 ` Hallvard B Furuseth
2004-11-22 22:49 ` Andreas Schwab
[not found] ` <mailman.778.1101164414.27204.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-28 19:39 ` Hallvard B Furuseth
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