From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: nyc4bos@aol.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13217: 24.3.50; emacs-version output not showing up Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:21:35 -0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1355876531 21440 80.91.229.3 (19 Dec 2012 00:22:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:22:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13217@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 19 01:22:25 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tl7QW-0003jH-UB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 01:22:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47538 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tl7QJ-0001zS-D7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1355876508; bh=DYRF1zp4xzpm0/T6evGTebKU0TJ6P4IV7MbC5uCBs8I=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wJmZNwhBfWxZF8GW4sOaQNk/bTeqnvBepIozeVSmGVoZbAErGfWcg7o4kPiICy0fI aDeosnU7CVNlirJnPeeEapUbbYkYld4X+AUXLKajUbfbUk8E134x6nw1uY33/FVIt6 6IMG/xh2JciJTpPceR0/kOIbBhBssZHbzelPqc8U= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:460804288:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338250d1089a6767 X-AOL-IP: 63.117.244.126 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:68717 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > nyc4bos@aol.com wrote: > >> This is both with my full setup and with `runemacs.exe -Q' >> >> However with the latest trunk version (bzr 111253) I can only see >> the `emacs-version' value with `runemacs.exe -Q' >> >> With my identical full setup I don't see the `emacs-version' in the >> echo-area nor in the *Messages* buffer with trunk version. > > So, do the usual thing of commenting out half your init file to identify > which half has the problem, then once you know which half, comment out > half of what remains, and so on, till you narrow down the problem. When I invoke `runemacs.exe -q`, the problem still occurs. So, perhaps the problem is in my site-lisp directory. > You might start by C-h f emacs-version... >From a `runemacs.exe --no-site-lisp is see: emacs-version is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `version.el'. So I checked my site-lisp directory and I had: simple.el simple.elc subdirs.el So to test, I copied the current lisp\simple.el* to site-lisp and I now see: emacs-version is an interactive compiled Lisp function. (No 'version.el') OK, seeing that message from `C-h f' is no problem. However, when I subsequently startup Gnus, I see the problem with not geting `emacs-version' to work. Of course, the solution is to delete the simple.el* files from the site-lisp directory. But should having the existance of the current-up-to-date simple.el* files in the site-lisp directory cause this problem? You can close this bugreport if it is deemed not interesting to look into why this happens (with subsequently starting Gnus?) since I can just remove the simple.el* files from site-lisp. Thanks.