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From: Andrea Corallo via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, dmalcolm@redhat.com, 46495@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#46495: 28.0.50; [native-comp] Build fails for 32bit --with-wide-int
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 12:16:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xjfy2e3msc1.fsf@sdf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ft0bim95.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:41:10 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>
>> Cc: dmalcolm@redhat.com, andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, 46495@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 08:47:37 +0000
>> 
>> > AFAIU, this means the libgccjit log file is only output with
>> > comp-debug 3 and higher?
>> 
>> Correct, the docstring wasn't correct :/ aa159bf696 should update it to
>> reflect the current situation.
>
> Thanks.
>
>> > Also, does comp-debug = 3 indeed cause the
>> > reproducer to be written, or is that controlled independently by
>> > comp-libgccjit-reproducer?
>> 
>> The reproducer is controlled independently by
>> `comp-libgccjit-reproducer', the idea behind this is that we want to be
>> able to produce reproducers independently from the debug settings (we
>> might have a ligccjit bug that is related to one debug option).
>
> Right, so comp-debug = 3 alone doesn't trigger the reproducer, right?

That's correct.

>> My proposal would be like:
>> 
>> 0 none
>> 1 debug symbols
>> 2 debug symbols + pseudo C file
>> 3 debug symbols + pseudo C file + GCC passes + libgccjit log file
>> 
>> I think the backtrace issue you are facing is clearly a gdb unwinder
>> limitation on Windows that should be fixed in gdb.
>
> It's more like a missing feature in GDB on platforms that don't use
> ELF binary format.  I don't hold my breath to have the situation
> improved, since this is so far a rare situation when debugging
> programs: no one expects debugging code without debug symbols to be
> easy.
>
>> OTOH I understand we can't update gdb for all users that might want
>> to help debugging an issue, but I don't like very much the idea to
>> have comp-debug 1 as default on every system.  What about having 1
>> as default only on Windows?  WDYT?
>
> In general, I'd prefer these settings to be the same on all platforms,
> although it isn't a strong feeling in this case.  But I'm curious why
> you are so against doing that by default on other systems.  Can you
> explain?

Nothing special, just that that as on GNU/Linux we can produce
backtraces without debug symbols so seams to me it would be a waste of
space to have them always present just for this reason.

> Anyway, I've compiled the relevant files with comp-debug = 1, and the
> problems with backtraces are now completely gone.  So I think we can
> more or less close this issue (modulo changing the meanings of
> comp-debug and the decision regarding the default value).

Sounds good, if my proposal of the new 4 values is acceptable for you
and we decide on the default one I can proceed with that.

Thanks

  Andrea





  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-31 12:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-13 17:57 bug#46495: 28.0.50; [native-comp] Build fails for 32bit --with-wide-int Andy Moreton
2021-02-13 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 20:23   ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-14 15:59     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 13:24 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-14 15:56   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 19:26     ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-02-15  9:01     ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-15 10:19       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-15 12:56         ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-02-16  9:34           ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-02-16 15:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 16:30               ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-02-16 17:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 17:17                   ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-02-16 19:49                     ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-02-16 21:51             ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-17  9:04               ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-02-17 18:03                 ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-02-18 22:36                   ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-19 14:19                     ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-02-19 16:01                       ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-19 16:06                         ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-02-19 17:01                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 17:35                           ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-19 19:36                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 22:07                         ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-26 10:18                           ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-26 11:27                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-26 13:10                               ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-29 15:55                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-29 16:15                                 ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-29 16:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-29 18:11                                     ` David Malcolm
2021-03-29 20:46                                       ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-30  7:50                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-30  9:06                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-31  8:13                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-31 13:03                                               ` David Malcolm
2021-03-31 13:13                                                 ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-31 13:35                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-31 13:33                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-30  9:22                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-30 14:33                                           ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-30 14:37                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-30 19:19                                               ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-31  8:07                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-31  8:47                                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-31 11:41                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-31 12:16                                                       ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2021-03-31 12:27                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-31 18:26                                                           ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-31 10:01                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-31 10:19                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-31 10:33                                                     ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-31 10:55                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-31 12:24                                                         ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-31 12:41                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-31 12:53                                                             ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-31 11:10                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-31 12:25                                                         ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-31 12:33                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-31 18:52                                                             ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-31 19:16                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-31 19:22                                                                 ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-31 19:35                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-31 19:43                                                                     ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-04-01  6:37                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-01  7:07                                                                         ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-04-01  7:42                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-01  8:18                                                                             ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-04-01  8:43                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-01 14:16                                                                               ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2021-04-01 19:52                                                                               ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-04-10 16:49                                                                                 ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-04-10 17:38                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-31 19:40                                                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-03-31 10:24                                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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