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From: Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>
To: "Nicolas Bértolo" <nicolasbertolo@gmail.com>
Cc: 41242@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#41242: Port feature/native-comp to Windows
Date: Sat, 23 May 2020 16:00:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xjfmu5yvdxn.fsf@sdf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFnS-O=FLSFT_jNjwEfeS5SGAUr=hD3gcjd1F2Xw7VDbhnS7FQ@mail.gmail.com> ("Nicolas Bértolo"'s message of "Sat, 23 May 2020 12:26:56 -0300")

Nicolas Bértolo <nicolasbertolo@gmail.com> writes:

>> I don't think would fly: You are not garanteed to be able to obtain
> the
>> same mmaped address anyway and we cannot go for a solution that
> does not
>> support ASLR.  In general to be portable it cannot rely on
> assumptions
>> or low level tricks.  I think these are (at least part of) the
> reasons
>> why we moved away from unexec.
>
> AFAIU ASLR is disabled already, at least in Windows.

The fact that is now disabled does not imply that we want to prevent us
from using it for the future, that said AFAIU given the personality of
my running Emacs is zeroed (i'm on GNU/Linux) it is running with ASLR
enabled.  See also 'maybe_disable_address_randomization'.

>> Is not that simple, loading eln is mutating the environment with
> side
>> effects, function definition is just a part of that.
>
> I know, but linking against a static .eln would just make the symbols
> available,
> not anything else. The mutation of the environment would happen when
> loading
> the dump.

Is more complex because we can have in the eln code that at top level
relies on functions as:

(defun foo ()
  ..)

(some code that depends on the definition of foo)

(defun foo ()
  ..)

So function definition and other top level executon is mixed.  I think
this could be worked around but is tricky.

>> Even more important we must support subsequent dumps.
>
> You are right. I hadn't considered this.

Yeah I think this the real no go.

  Andrea

-- 
akrl@sdf.org





  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-23 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 149+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-13 19:26 bug#41242: Port feature/native-comp to Windows Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-13 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-13 19:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-13 20:01   ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-13 22:25     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-14 13:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-13 20:08   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-13 20:27     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-13 19:56 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-13 20:03   ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-14 10:18 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-14 10:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14 11:17     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-14 14:32       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14 15:03         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-14 16:50           ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-14 17:28             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14 17:35               ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-14 17:56                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14 18:00                   ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-14 18:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14 18:35                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-14 18:29                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-14 18:59                       ` Achim Gratz
2020-05-14 17:34             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-14 17:51               ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-14 18:13                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-14 18:40                   ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-14 18:48                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-14 19:00                       ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-14 19:15                         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-14 19:48                           ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-14 19:58                             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-14 20:16                               ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-14 20:29                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-14 20:34                                   ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-15  6:10                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14 19:16                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14 19:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14 19:36                       ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-15  6:08                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 12:33                           ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-15 13:00                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 19:44                               ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-16  6:22                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-16  7:12                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-16 16:12                                   ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-16 16:19                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-16 16:31                                       ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-16 16:42                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-16 17:09                                           ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-19 19:23                                           ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-19 19:25                                             ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-20 15:27                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-20 15:46                                                 ` Nicolas Bértolo
     [not found]                                                   ` <83blmf13d1.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                                                     ` <xjfh7w7vyjk.fsf@sdf.org>
     [not found]                                                       ` <83367r0zvb.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-05-23 10:37                                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-23 11:03                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-23 11:21                                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-23 12:20                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-23 12:54                                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-23 14:41                                                           ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-23 15:11                                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-23 15:26                                                               ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-23 16:00                                                                 ` Andrea Corallo [this message]
2020-05-23 16:04                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-23 16:20                                                                   ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-23 17:04                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-23 17:20                                                                       ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-23 17:35                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-23 17:47                                                                           ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-23 18:21                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-23 18:29                                                                               ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-23 18:37                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-23 18:43                                                                                   ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-23 22:52                                                                                     ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-25 12:21                                                                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-24  3:53                                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-23 17:56                                                                           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-23 15:52                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-23 16:03                                                               ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-20 16:06                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-20 15:55                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-20 16:12                                               ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-20 16:17                                                 ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-20 17:24                                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-20 17:29                                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-20 17:59                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-20 18:09                                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-20 18:48                                                     ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-20 21:38                                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-21  1:58                                                         ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-21 18:51                                                           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-22 21:23                                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-14 19:13                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14 17:14           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14 16:24         ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-14 17:21           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-20 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-23 22:58 ` bug#41242: Port feature/native-comp to Windows - Improve handling of native compilation Andrea Corallo
2020-05-23 23:43   ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-24  8:19     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-24 17:58       ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-24 19:13         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-24 19:43           ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-25 14:04             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-25 14:27               ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-25 15:06                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-25 20:27                   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-25 21:49                     ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-27 21:02 ` bug#41242: Port feature/native-comp to Windows - Determine the emacs root dir Andrea Corallo
2020-05-28  6:17   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-29  0:39     ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-29 12:12       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-29 13:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-29 14:26           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-30 10:51         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-30 13:06           ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-30 14:17             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-30 13:23           ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-30 14:51             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-30 16:25               ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-30 18:51                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-30 20:15                   ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-30 20:54                   ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-31  8:55                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-30 16:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-30 14:15 ` bug#41242: Port feature/native-comp to Windows - Reduce the number of files probed when finding a lisp file Andrea Corallo
2020-05-31 15:34   ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-05-31 22:41     ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-06-01  7:21       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-06-01 13:56         ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-06-01 19:24     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-06-02  0:42       ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-06-02 14:43         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-06-02 15:02       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-02 16:24         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-06-02 21:17           ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-06-02 23:08             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-06-02 23:39               ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-06-03 13:50                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-06-03 15:28                   ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-06-03 16:24                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-06-06 21:41     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-06-06 21:51       ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-06-06 22:32         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-06-06 22:50           ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-06-06 23:20             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-06-09 14:14               ` Nicolas Bértolo
2020-06-09 17:17                 ` Andrea Corallo

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