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From: akrl--- via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Andy Moreton <andrewjmoreton@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [feature/native-comp] breakage on build
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2021 09:11:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xjfmtwmsujr.fsf@sdf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ft2fjov2.fsf@gmail.com> (Andy Moreton's message of "Tue, 02 Feb 2021 00:27:13 +0000")

Andy Moreton <andrewjmoreton@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sat 30 Jan 2021, akrl--- via "Emacs development discussions." wrote:
>
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>>
>>>> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 18:38:10 +0200
>>>> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>>>> Cc: akrl@sdf.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>>> 
>>>>   compiling to
>>>> c:/msys64/home/Administrator/emacs-build/build/emacs-28.0.50-snapshot-feature_native-comp-windows/native-lisp/28.0.50-x86_64-w64-mingw32-3459bc949453c7833f94b407f8ee7c17/titdic-cnv-765ac3beca7090ba17f799d9600c18e6-a5dbcc84a969a94717512a079e1cc96a.eln
>>>> 
>>>> The name of that file is suspiciously close to the 260-byte limit of
>>>> file-name length that Win32 APIs support.  So my guess is that the
>>>> temporary file had a few more characters (like the 6 characters which
>>>> replace the XXXXXX, perhaps?), and that caused the failure.
>>>
>>> Btw, Andrea: why do we need no less than 3 32-character hashes in that
>>> file name?  With 26-byte limit on file names that libgccjit can use,
>>> these 96 characters use up almost half of that space, and that will
>>> bite us time and again down the road on MS-Windows.  Can we use just
>>> one hash?
>>>
>>
>> Say ATM we have:
>>
>> native-lisp/28.0.50-x86_64-w64-mingw32-HASH1/titdic-cnv-HASH2-HASH3.eln
>>
>> - HASH1 disambiguate triplet, Emacs configuration, version etc.  We can
>>   say this is disambiguating everything that influence the ABI the eln
>>   expects and exposes.
>>
>> - HASH2 is just hashing the full patch of the original source file.
>
> This is unclear. Did you mean the content of the source, or its filename ?

Sorry typo; wanted to write path, so please read filename.

>> - HASH3 is hashing the content of the file.
>>
>> HASH1 is handy because one can remove selectively the eln files of say a
>> previous Emacs version or an old configuration.  I often remove all of
>> these folders but the most recent one.  That said technically HASH1 and
>> HASH3 could be merged.
>
> This should be done: it is better to simplify the filesystem layout and
> provide some utility functions to help with removing stale cache entries.

Please design and implement such a system, when will be proved it works
well I'm sure these patches will be welcome.

>> HASH2 is handy because there must be within this folder at most one file
>> with each HASH2.  IOW recompiling we remove all the other .eln sharing
>> the same HASH2 if present as indeed these files are obsolete.
>
> So if the same source same rebuilt with different eln compile flags then
> only one of them is retained ?

No, HASH2 is not influenced by eln compilation flags.

  Andrea



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-02  9:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-30 10:37 [feature/native-comp] breakage on build Phillip Lord
2021-01-30 13:26 ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-30 14:40   ` phillip.lord
2021-01-30 15:01     ` phillip.lord
2021-01-30 16:21       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-30 16:38         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-30 17:06           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-30 17:19             ` phillip.lord
2021-01-30 19:44             ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-30 19:58               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-30 20:17                 ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-31 15:29                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-01 11:01                     ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-01 15:25                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-01 16:20                         ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
     [not found]                           ` <831rdz7mf5.fsf@gnu.org>
2021-02-01 19:01                             ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-01 19:06                             ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-01 19:36                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-01 19:37                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-01 20:33                             ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-02 20:26                         ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-02 20:29                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-03 12:37                             ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-03 16:36                             ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-03 20:27                               ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-04  3:31                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-04 14:39                                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-04 15:31                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-04 15:52                                     ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-04 16:24                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-04 20:24                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-04 20:44                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-04 22:08                                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-05 11:50                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-05 14:47                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-05 21:29                                                   ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-05 22:56                                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-06 13:15                                                       ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-07  2:52                                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-07 18:56                                                           ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-07 19:38                                                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-07 19:49                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-07 20:33                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-07 21:23                                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-07 22:23                                                                   ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-07 22:21                                                               ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-07 23:38                                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-08 12:03                                                                   ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-06  7:32                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-04 16:22                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-04 21:07                                     ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-04 23:32                                       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-05 10:05                                         ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-05 11:35                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-05 20:37                                             ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-05 21:04                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-05 21:50                                                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-06  7:45                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-06 12:58                                                     ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-06 13:45                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-07 19:11                                                         ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-08  9:32                                                           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-08 12:08                                                             ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-08 14:28                                                               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-08 14:47                                                                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-08 15:14                                                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-08 21:38                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-09  8:25                                                                       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-09 22:38                                                                         ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-10  8:44                                                                           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-10 14:04                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-10 14:23                                                                               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-15 19:17                                                                                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-10 15:16                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-10 20:41                                                                               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-11 14:11                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-11 14:51                                                                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-11 15:24                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-11 15:53                                                                                       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-11 16:11                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-11 16:20                                                                                           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-11 20:52                                                                                             ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-12  6:46                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-10 21:23                                                                             ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-11  8:39                                                                               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-08 15:25                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-08 15:23                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-07  2:15                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-07  4:14                                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-05 11:35                                           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-05 20:44                                             ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-05  7:28                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-30 20:21               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-30 22:06                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-30 22:23                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-30 22:53                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-02  0:27               ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-02  9:11                 ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
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2021-02-01 18:39 Eli Zaretskii

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