From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43269: 28.0.50; [feature/native-comp] provide a user feedback on Emacs being native compiled Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 08:03:06 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83wo15msrj.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuw9mmfe.fsf@gnu.org> <83sgbtm2d3.fsf@gnu.org> <062E9DA2-B039-4AAD-802B-7333971F5B73@gnu.org> Reply-To: Andrea Corallo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39022"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: 43269@debbugs.gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 08 10:04:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFYbr-000A3g-W2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 10:04:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35270 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFYbr-00078B-1S for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 04:04:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56118) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFYbi-00075Y-GT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 04:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:40242) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFYbi-0007iy-5E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 04:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFYbh-0003gc-WA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 04:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andrea Corallo Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 08:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 43269 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Arthur Miller Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.159955219714074 (code B ref -1); Tue, 08 Sep 2020 08:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2020 08:03:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51781 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFYaz-0003ev-1a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 04:03:17 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:56766) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFYax-0003eo-Ab for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 04:03:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55952) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFYax-0006Uq-4a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 04:03:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:62534) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFYau-0007f0-Rp; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 04:03:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mab (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 088836wQ024259; Tue, 8 Sep 2020 08:03:06 GMT In-Reply-To: <062E9DA2-B039-4AAD-802B-7333971F5B73@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 08 Sep 2020 08:04:03 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=akrl@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/08 04:03:07 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:187511 Archived-At: As suggested opening a new issue to keep on discussing what came-up from https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2020-09/msg00637.html Eli Zaretskii writes: [...] > That's a different issue. The original question was about the splash > screen and specifically about emacs-version. I see no reason > whatsoever to show information about the native compilation there, as > it's a minor feature that moreover has no effect at all until some > Lisp files are compiled with it. For completeness: ATM all code that was byte compiled gets native compiled automatically. For this reason it *has* an effect since Emacs starts. It is true that from a user perspective everything is going on transparently but the side effect of the native compilation is the exact reason why people are using it (read depending on the workload it can be noticeably faster). If it's more or less important than say using Cairo that's very much a POV I think, as I believe is classifying it as "minor feature" (reason why I'd avoid). Thanks Andrea