From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 08:30:59 +0000 Message-ID: References: <4be18b5f-dc07-2703-a2de-1ed08916ebdf@gmail.com> <3774c435-60d6-a958-77d1-a831599c85c5@gmail.com> Reply-To: Andrea Corallo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32156"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: "Alfred M. Szmidt" , Nicola Manca , Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel To: Thibaut Verron Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 19 10:32:07 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJYHv-0008Fi-4Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 10:32:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58820 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJYHu-0003mi-5g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 04:32:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34636) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJYGz-0003G8-Fn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 04:31:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:55603) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJYGv-00066Z-8u; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 04:31:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mab (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 08J8UxBN005632; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 08:31:00 GMT In-Reply-To: (Thibaut Verron's message of "Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:59:19 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=akrl@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/19 04:31:01 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256151 Archived-At: Thibaut Verron writes: > Le ven. 18 sept. 2020 =C3=A0 20:26, Alfred M. Szmidt a =C3= =A9crit : >> >> > On first start, the wizard would offer the option to create an e= mpty >> > .emacs and never bother you again. >> > >> > The issue is that it would bother you on first start, at all. >> >> On balance this a good thing, IMO. And if you disagree, it will only >> bother you once. >> >> No, it will bother _each_ and _every_ time I start a new Emacs where I >> have not done so previously. That is a fairly common situation, both >> for new users, but also for experienced users who are the majority of >> Emacs users. >> >> Lets not make Emacs annoying to use, OK? > > I, for one, would be happy to have a one-click option to set a bunch > of reasonable defaults whenever I start Emacs on a new device. +1