From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [feature/native-comp] breakage on build Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 14:28:46 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87lfca7lsb.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8335yf7qtf.fsf@gnu.org> <831rdy5i2r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2g5p0q8.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87im7799s9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87wnvn5yoz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87eehuomn2.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83lfc2px16.fsf@gnu.org> <87czxe45f8.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8335yap6p8.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnvm2nhb.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83wnvlod0k.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnvlmjxo.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ft29nwc0.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2fzr8ve.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87ft26pxra.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: Andrea Corallo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11978"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Phillip Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 08 21:51:28 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9DVI-0002zM-0w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 21:51:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40678 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9DVG-0001br-UX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 15:51:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57700) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l97XC-0002Rm-Ey for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 09:29:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:52327) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l97Wz-0000xg-L6; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 09:29:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mab (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 118ESkUs003201 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Mon, 8 Feb 2021 14:28:46 GMT In-Reply-To: <87ft26pxra.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Mon, 08 Feb 2021 12:08:57 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=akrl@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264172 Archived-At: Phillip Lord writes: > Andrea Corallo writes: > >> Phillip Lord writes: >>> Eli, Oscar, Andrea >>> >>> Apologies, I had forgotten that I had moved machines during testing. It >>> was simply the path (and exec-path) that was missing. My own time is >>> mine to waste, but apologies for wasting yours. >>> >>> I am coming to the conclusion that I am going the wrong path here. I >>> think supporting native-comp and keeping a sanely sized Emacs >>> distribution are not compatible objectives. I do not want to return to >>> the Emacs-26 distribution, which included a lot of msys2. >>> >>> I think that the base distribution of Emacs-28 should not include >>> JIT native-comp. If people want this, they should get it through the >>> msys2 co-installation that Oscar and I have been talking of. >>> >>> However, we could just do a full AOT native-comp, so at least the >>> Emacs-28 packages would all benefit. Andrea, can the native-comp branch >>> still load *eln files even if it can't produce them? >> >> Yes, libgccjit is not needed for loading elns. There might be some minors to >> look at as I've never tested this configuration but should be no >> problem. > > > For an Emacs compiled --with-nativecomp, how do I stop it attempting to > native compile? `comp-deferred-compilation' But I was wrong there's another issue. If we can't compile we cannot synthesize trampolines, as a consequence we can't redefine or advice primitive functions reliably... Sorry Andrea