From: Andrea Corallo via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [feature/native-comp] breakage on build
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 15:14:50 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xjf7dniwpzp.fsf@sdf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877dnipqfh.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Mon, 08 Feb 2021 14:47:14 +0000")
Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk> writes:
> Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org> writes:
>
>> Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk> writes:
>>
>>> Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk> writes:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, libgccjit is not needed for loading elns. There might be some minors to
>>>> look at as I've never tested this configuration but should be no
>>>> problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> For an Emacs compiled --with-nativecomp, how do I stop it attempting to
>>> native compile?
>>
>> `comp-deferred-compilation'
>>
>> But I was wrong there's another issue. If we can't compile we cannot
>> synthesize trampolines, as a consequence we can't redefine or advice
>> primitive functions reliably... Sorry
>
>
> I didn't think we could do this anyway. I guess this means that
> native-compiled lisp to primitive adviced functions will skip the
> advice? So, that would be a change from the current situation where
> C calls to C functions don't get adviced, but lisp calls to C functions
> do.
Apologies let me be more precise.
- Advising C to C primitives is not possible in both implementations
- With bytecode you can effectively redefine primitives with _no_
dedicated op-bytecode.
- With native code you can redefine all of these except for the (very
few) primitives we open-code directly in the generated code. This is
a smaller set than the previous one but still not perfect.
Anyway, we can do this but relying on this trampoline syntheses
mechanism.
Removing this mechanism is therfore ATM not possible, unless we
precompile all trampolines AOT bug#44238. This should be rather easy
tho, we lack only some integration into the build system lets say.
Andrea
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2021-01-30 10:37 [feature/native-comp] breakage on build Phillip Lord
2021-01-30 13:26 ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-30 14:40 ` phillip.lord
2021-01-30 15:01 ` phillip.lord
2021-01-30 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-30 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-30 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-30 17:19 ` phillip.lord
2021-01-30 19:44 ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-30 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-30 20:17 ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-31 15:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-01 11:01 ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-01 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-01 16:20 ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
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2021-02-01 19:01 ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-01 19:06 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-01 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-01 19:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-01 20:33 ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-02 20:26 ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-02 20:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-03 12:37 ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-03 16:36 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-03 20:27 ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-04 3:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-04 14:39 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-04 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-04 15:52 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-04 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-04 20:24 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-04 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-04 22:08 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-05 11:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-05 14:47 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-05 21:29 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-05 22:56 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-06 13:15 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-07 2:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-07 18:56 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-07 19:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-07 19:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-07 20:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-07 21:23 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-07 22:23 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-07 22:21 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-07 23:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-08 12:03 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-06 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-04 16:22 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-04 21:07 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-04 23:32 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-05 10:05 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-05 11:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-05 20:37 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-05 21:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-05 21:50 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-06 7:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-06 12:58 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-06 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-07 19:11 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-08 9:32 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-08 12:08 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-08 14:28 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-08 14:47 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-08 15:14 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2021-02-08 21:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-09 8:25 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-09 22:38 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-10 8:44 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-10 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-10 14:23 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-15 19:17 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-10 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-10 20:41 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-11 14:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-11 14:51 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-11 15:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-11 15:53 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-11 16:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-11 16:20 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-11 20:52 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-12 6:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-10 21:23 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-11 8:39 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-08 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-08 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-07 2:15 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-07 4:14 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-05 11:35 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-05 20:44 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-05 7:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-30 20:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-30 22:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-30 22:23 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-30 22:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-02 0:27 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-02 9:11 ` akrl--- via Emacs development discussions.
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