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From: Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com>
To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs 23 Mac port
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 10:19:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xbaivdfkdd20.fsf@cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wlocldcf1l.wl%mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> (YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu's message of "Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:21:42 +0900")

On 2010-01-02 04:21 +0000, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 01:27:32 +0000, Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> said:
>
>> However, my old font setting under ns does not seem to work:
>
> Try replacing "_" in the family names with " ".  The font backend
> driver of the Mac port, as well as the ones in X11, doesn't avoid
> spaces in font family names.
>
> To get font family names, you can use `(font-family-list)' or check
> the result of `(x-select-font)' as in the GTK+ build.

Many thanks.

>> Also is there a way to disable tool-bar in such a way that it does not
>> display the tool-bar first and then hide it and shrink the window as
>> is done by (tool-bar-mode -1).
>
> I assume you are using initial-frame-alist or something like
> that.  This behavior can also be observed in the GTK+ build, and
> a known workaround is to use X resources.  It is also applicable
> to the Mac port.
>
>   For permanent setting:
>   $ defaults write org.gnu.Emacs 'Emacs*ToolBar' 0
>   (This corresponds to adding the line 'Emacs*ToolBar:0' into
>    ~/.Xresources)

This is another plus. I like it and I now use it to set tool-bar off and
the default font ;) It seems the ns port does not even support this.
Many thanks.

>   For temporary setting:
>   $ .../Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -xrm 'Emacs*ToolBar:0'
> 				     YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
> 				mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp

I don't know if this is a bug but it was surprising when I first saw it.

For example, when using emacs to edit .TeX files with AUCTeX which
allows you to view the output pdf (AUCTeX compiles to pdf files if
TeX-pdf-mode is t) file with key 'C-c C-v'. If you open a pdf file that
is not already open through 'C-c C-v', all pdf windows will be raised
above the Emacs window and obscure it, giving a feeling that Emacs just
disappeared (I thought it crashed in the first time). If the pdf file is
already opened, there's no such problem.

The ns port has this behaviour, only the new pdf window is raised and
the emacs window is still visible (i.e. it is consistent whether the
file is opened or not).

This emacs port provides a close feature set to that from GNU/Linux.
Thanks a million to make it available to emacs 23. I will use it heavily
and see if it is also stable.

Best wishes,

Leo




  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-02 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-20 11:02 Carbon: resizing a frame on wrong "space" David Reitter
2008-02-21  1:13 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-02-28 20:26   ` Harald Maier
2008-02-29  0:15     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-02-29  2:40       ` William Xu
2008-02-29  3:02         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-02-29  3:10           ` William Xu
2008-02-29  3:18             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-02-29  4:55           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-29  8:36             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-03-02  4:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-07  3:46         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-11-27 11:37           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-01-26  4:48             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-03-27  0:28               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-05-13  3:25                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-06-27  5:58                   ` Emacs 22 Carbon+AppKit port (was Re: Carbon: resizing a frame on wrong "space") YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-08-03  2:55                     ` Emacs 22 Carbon+AppKit port YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-08-07 20:41                       ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-29  0:48                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-08-31 17:38                         ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2009-09-01  5:40                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-05  2:18                         ` Emacs 22 Carbon+AppKit port and Emacs 23 Mac port YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-05  7:47                           ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-05  8:56                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-05 11:27                               ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-05 12:15                             ` David Reitter
2009-09-05 12:42                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-09-05 14:35                               ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-05 17:28                                 ` David Reitter
2009-09-08 18:45                                   ` David Reitter
2009-09-08 16:22                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-09  0:26                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-05  8:03                           ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-08 10:38                             ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-09  1:04                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-10 10:16                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-11 18:11                           ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-27  4:23                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-11-01  4:47                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-12-09 22:08                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-12-31 11:46                                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-02  1:27                                   ` Leo
2010-01-02  4:21                                     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-02 10:19                                       ` Leo [this message]
2010-01-02 15:26                                         ` Leo
2010-01-02 20:56                                   ` Leo
2010-01-03  2:45                                     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-03 11:07                                       ` Leo
2010-01-12  8:16                                       ` Jan Djärv
2010-01-12  9:03                                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-12  9:28                                           ` Jan Djärv
2010-01-12 10:18                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-03 11:07                                               ` bug#5295: 23.1.91; special-event-map bug Leo
2010-01-12 10:19                                                 ` bug#5295: marked as done (23.1.91; special-event-map bug) Emacs bug Tracking System
2010-01-12 14:15                                           ` Emacs 23 Mac port Stefan Monnier
2010-01-12 17:21                                             ` Jan Djärv
2010-01-12 21:22                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-13  7:39                                                 ` Jan D.
2010-01-13 14:38                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-12 23:35                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-13  7:43                                               ` Jan D.
2010-01-04  2:08                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-30  4:42                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-02-27  9:19                                     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-04-03  2:26                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-04-03 14:55                                         ` Leo
2010-04-03 16:07                                           ` Leo
2010-04-04  5:36                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-04-06 13:09                                             ` Leo
2010-04-20  9:08                                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-04-20 13:07                                           ` Leo
2010-04-28  8:57                                           ` Leo
2010-04-30  1:21                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-04  2:35                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-04  3:10                                             ` Leo
2010-05-05  1:09                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-05 15:58                                             ` David Reitter
2010-05-06  1:04                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-06 16:34                                                 ` covici
2010-05-07  0:33                                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-06 17:31                                                 ` David Reitter
2010-06-06 18:48                                                   ` John Higgins
2010-06-06 21:28                                                     ` David Reitter
2010-06-07  0:53                                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-06-11 21:27                                                         ` Daniel Colascione
2010-11-16  1:25                                                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-11-16 14:11                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-11-17 13:44                                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-11-17 14:57                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-11-17 17:00                                                                 ` David Reitter
2010-05-09  4:45                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-29  8:14                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-06-26  3:51                                                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-31  5:23                                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-31 11:36                                                     ` covici
2010-08-05 19:15                                                     ` David Reitter
2010-09-27  8:38                                                     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-09-27  9:24                                                       ` Leo
2010-11-10  8:50                                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-11-14 21:47                                                         ` Daniel Colascione
2010-11-15  1:48                                                           ` Leo
2010-11-15  1:52                                                             ` covici
2010-11-15  7:03                                                           ` Chad Brown
2010-11-15 15:23                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-11-17 21:49                                                           ` ken manheimer
2010-11-18 14:35                                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-12-01  3:34                                                         ` Leo
2010-12-01 10:43                                                           ` Leo
2010-12-02 10:01                                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-12-02 14:52                                                               ` Leo
2010-12-03  4:41                                                                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-12-03  6:34                                                                   ` Leo
2010-12-12  4:41                                                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-01-15 10:35                                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-02-01  9:40                                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-02-15  8:04                                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-03-10  6:29                                                                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-07-23  3:28                                                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-07-26 11:07                                                                     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-08-06  5:55                                                                     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-08-06 11:48                                                                       ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-08-06 13:00                                                                         ` Jan Djärv
2011-08-08  0:08                                                                           ` Alp Aker
2011-08-08  3:37                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-08  4:45                                                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-08-08  9:48                                                                             ` Jan Djärv
2011-08-08 13:02                                                                               ` David Reitter
2011-08-08 16:14                                                                                 ` Jan Djärv
2011-08-08 12:59                                                                             ` David Reitter
2011-08-12 16:57                                                                             ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-08-27  0:52                                                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-09-01  0:42                                                                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-10-02 12:30                                                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-10-06 19:08                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-07  0:27                                                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-10-07 10:25                                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-17  1:29                                                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-10-27  2:46                                                                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-11-28 10:45                                                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-11-28 12:06                                                                             ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-29 18:51                                                                               ` Jan Djärv
2011-11-28 14:58                                                                             ` Xu Xin
2012-01-15  6:07                                                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-15 17:29                                                                               ` Xu Xin
2012-01-31  6:52                                                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-31 15:57                                                                                 ` Xu Xin
2012-01-31 19:01                                                                                   ` John Wiegley
2010-03-13  0:16                               ` Emacs 22 Carbon+AppKit port and " YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-03-15 18:12                                 ` Giovanni Lanzani
2010-03-16  0:23                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-01-16 11:32 emacs user
2012-01-16 13:01 ` Leo
2012-01-17  0:49 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-17  3:47 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-17 10:51   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu

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