From: Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: eval-after-load not harmful after all
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:44:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xbaitz063bsq.fsf@cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: e01d8a50908161734k63569b09v707f276c1d0b545@mail.gmail.com
On 2009-08-17 01:34 +0100, Lennart Borgman wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Leo<sdl.web@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Emacs -Q already has a non-nil after-load-alist value. I think this is a
>> really bad example.
>
>
> I think at least for CUA-mode and semantic-mode they instead good
> examples on that eval-after-load can be useful even within Emacs. If I
> understand it right these checks if an old version of the modes have
> been loaded before the one that is now bundled with Emacs. Can you see
> a better way to do this? I can't.
I just found out those are added from within simple.el. But they look to me
more like a last minute hack before release although I am not sure.
What those e-v-l's do is pretty little and they don't belong there. If
there's a bug in, say, bbdb 2.29, should a new entry be added? After all
if a package is installed by a user, it is the user's responsibility.
>> Is there any way to cleanly unload an eval-after-load form? For example,
>> if a package eval-after-load something that interferes with a user's
>> personal setting, what to do?
>
> Can't you just delete the entry in after-load-alist? Or do you want to
> do it afterwards? I can see no way to do that in the general case.
Each entry could involve multiple e-v-l's. There's extra care that needs
to be taken.
--
Leo's Emacs uptime: 13 days, 11 hours, 21 minutes, 36 seconds
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Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-09 23:34 Why js2-mode in Emacs 23.2? Deniz Dogan
2009-08-09 23:38 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 23:46 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-09 23:50 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-08-09 23:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 23:56 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-09 23:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 23:58 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-10 0:00 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 0:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-10 0:17 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 0:46 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-10 0:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 0:18 ` Leo
2009-08-10 0:49 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-10 7:06 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-08-10 8:44 ` Leo
2009-08-10 8:54 ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-10 9:26 ` Leo
2009-08-10 10:22 ` Richard Riley
2009-08-10 15:21 ` eval-after-load not harmful after all (Was: Re: Why js-2mode?) Daniel Colascione
2009-08-10 17:01 ` Drew Adams
2009-08-10 17:21 ` eval-after-load not harmful after all Stefan Monnier
2009-08-11 0:43 ` eval-after-load not harmful after all (Was: Re: Why js-2mode?) Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-11 0:46 ` Drew Adams
2009-08-11 14:06 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-11 15:08 ` eval-after-load not harmful after all Stefan Monnier
2009-08-16 21:43 ` Leo
2009-08-17 0:34 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-17 11:44 ` Leo [this message]
2009-08-17 11:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-17 12:26 ` Leo
2009-08-17 14:40 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 0:53 ` eval-after-load not harmful after all (Was: Re: Why js-2mode?) Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 3:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 9:17 ` Leo
2009-08-11 14:37 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-10 10:41 ` Why js2-mode in Emacs 23.2? Carsten Dominik
2009-08-10 13:04 ` Leo
2009-08-10 14:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-11 1:13 ` Glenn Morris
2009-08-11 3:02 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 4:28 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-11 4:33 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 4:39 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-11 4:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 4:37 ` Glenn Morris
2009-08-10 2:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 2:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 13:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 0:32 ` Leo
2009-08-10 0:48 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-10 2:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 3:24 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-10 3:27 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 3:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-10 5:18 ` Jason Rumney
2009-08-10 5:51 ` Xah Lee
2009-08-10 6:22 ` Xah Lee
2009-08-10 6:59 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-10 11:01 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 17:35 ` "Font-lock is limited to text matching" is a myth Daniel Colascione
2009-08-10 18:04 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 20:42 ` David Engster
2009-08-10 20:51 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 22:06 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-08-10 22:19 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 1:50 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-08-11 6:47 ` Steve Yegge
2009-08-11 9:17 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-11 12:13 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 14:37 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-11 14:49 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 14:57 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 14:53 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 15:08 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 15:36 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-11 15:56 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-11 15:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 17:00 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-11 17:19 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 15:57 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-11 17:06 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-11 14:50 ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-11 15:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 15:11 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 15:16 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 15:44 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 18:04 ` joakim
2009-08-11 18:08 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 19:12 ` joakim
2009-08-11 17:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-11 16:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-11 18:10 ` Edward O'Connor
2009-08-12 1:58 ` Steve Yegge
2009-08-12 13:48 ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-12 16:07 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-12 22:08 ` Steve Yegge
2009-08-14 1:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-12 2:16 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-08-12 6:43 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-12 11:28 ` Xah Lee
2010-11-23 14:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-12 15:21 ` asynchronous parsing (was: "Font-lock is limited to text matching" is a myth) Ted Zlatanov
2009-08-12 17:16 ` asynchronous parsing joakim
2009-08-12 19:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-08-12 20:01 ` joakim
2009-08-13 2:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-13 14:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-08-11 19:48 ` "Font-lock is limited to text matching" is a myth Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 18:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 18:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 3:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 14:49 ` Why js2-mode in Emacs 23.2? Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 6:46 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-08-10 14:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 14:05 ` Stephen Eilert
2009-08-10 14:37 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 14:42 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-08-10 19:12 ` Stephen Eilert
2009-08-10 14:41 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-08-10 14:57 ` Lennart Borgman
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