From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: visual-line-mode and line wrapping Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 20:53:54 +0100 Organization: University of Cambridge Message-ID: References: <87typxp055.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1274730963 22533 80.91.229.12 (24 May 2010 19:56:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 19:56:03 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 24 21:56:02 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGdkn-0006vf-FN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 May 2010 21:56:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34858 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OGdkm-0003j2-Ts for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 May 2010 15:56:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41818 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OGdjv-0004dM-JY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2010 15:55:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGdj1-0005ZV-OF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2010 15:55:04 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:44565) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGdj1-0005Ya-Ij for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2010 15:54:11 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGdiv-0005tV-UG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2010 21:54:05 +0200 Original-Received: from smaug.linux.pwf.cam.ac.uk ([193.60.95.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 24 May 2010 21:54:05 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by smaug.linux.pwf.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 24 May 2010 21:54:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ connect(): No such file or directory Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: smaug.linux.pwf.cam.ac.uk User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:BxZHV7A3i4iq93g1mqYlkeTnb1M= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125207 Archived-At: On 2010-05-24 20:31 +0100, Chong Yidong wrote: >> Using fringes or margins (now that I have tried it and I can imagine how >> Lennart implement his mode) are all workarounds and they are not much >> different than opening up a frame with the desired width but then it is >> a waste of screen estate and it has impact on productivity. > > Implementing a wrap margin creates exactly the same waste of screen > estate. Functionally, the two are equivalent. It might be the case for that buffer alone but the experience would be different if you consider other activities while editing that buffer ie switching to buffers, splitting windows etc. See this screenshot: http://imagebin.org/98184. Basically I want to be able to put a cap on the line length so that it won't go insanely long and make reading painful. Cheers. Leo