From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: eval-after-load not harmful after all Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:26:53 +0100 Organization: University of Cambridge Message-ID: References: <7b501d5c0908091634ndfba631vd9db6502db301097@mail.gmail.com> <998B83F771474211A37D1E2B6A497B61@us.oracle.com> <878whr9o4c.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <0AE832B5AEFE4453BB3E46F20DA29DE8@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1250512052 23341 80.91.229.12 (17 Aug 2009 12:27:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:27:32 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 17 14:27:25 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Md1J7-00004r-D5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:27:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54546 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Md1J6-0005Jh-LO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:27:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Md1Ix-0005JL-EA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:27:15 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Md1Ir-0005F1-Ex for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:27:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46424 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Md1Iq-0005Ew-Vb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:27:09 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:52067) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Md1Iq-0007mi-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:27:08 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Md1Io-0008Oe-3u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:27:06 +0200 Original-Received: from smaug.linux.pwf.cam.ac.uk ([193.60.95.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:27:06 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by smaug.linux.pwf.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:27:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 13 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: smaug.linux.pwf.cam.ac.uk User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:LWa4wAKuoKXnlqtI3QK5QDWjygk= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114337 Archived-At: On 2009-08-17 12:55 +0100, Lennart Borgman wrote: >> I just found out those are added from within simple.el. But they look to me >> more like a last minute hack before release although I am not sure. > > I am afraid you are totally misunderstanding this. You will see that > if you try to answer my question above. There's hardly room for misunderstanding. I admit that e-v-l is probably the only tool available at the moment for dealing with this problem but it is by no means the optimal way. -- Leo's Emacs uptime: 13 days, 12 hours, 9 minutes, 59 seconds