From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: elisp's cl package. Don't understand the notice about eval-when-compile Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:09:34 +0000 Organization: University of Cambridge Message-ID: References: <558fb909-6290-4c04-88a3-ad385d75f456@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <20524da70903260809g669b044fy65e037eeab5a90ae@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1238098233 7551 80.91.229.12 (26 Mar 2009 20:10:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:10:33 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 26 21:11:51 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LmvvP-0000FX-Je for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:11:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57047 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lmvu2-0006qu-GP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:10:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lmvtk-0006qc-I6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:09:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lmvtg-0006qH-1G for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:09:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36021 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lmvtf-0006qE-UP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:09:51 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:34099 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lmvtf-0008Uz-Ev for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:09:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LmvtZ-0002ep-CP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:09:45 +0000 Original-Received: from smaug.linux.pwf.cam.ac.uk ([193.60.95.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:09:45 +0000 Original-Received: from sdl.web by smaug.linux.pwf.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:09:45 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: smaug.linux.pwf.cam.ac.uk User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ge+1msIh0D7Ft9mE8NH/m1iBP1k= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:63304 Archived-At: On 2009-03-26 15:09 +0000, Samuel Wales wrote: > Has the inclusion of cl.el caused big problems for anybody? For most > things, experienced people seem to use a personal prefix. No, I don't think the problem lies in cl.el; it is more a political decision or RMS personal preference. > > If Emacs Lisp has been adopting cl.el for many years, why not fast >forward? > > Package developers and experienced users seem to use it a lot. It is > not just for people who come from CL. Many people have argued for this. Nobody can bend RMS's will. For this, I rather have XEmacs around, which is welcoming innovations. -- .: Leo :. [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ] .: I use Emacs :. www.git-scm.com git - the one true version control system