From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lots and lots of symbols interned by calc Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:14:23 +0100 Organization: University of Cambridge Message-ID: References: <87sk6n4ayf.fsf@vh213601.truman.edu> <871ve7tkr0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1271963685 25951 80.91.229.12 (22 Apr 2010 19:14:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:14:45 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 22 21:14:44 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O51rG-0005UV-WC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:14:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58631 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O51rG-0007LY-D6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:14:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O51rA-0007Ki-NQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:14:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49273 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O51r9-0007K4-Hg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:14:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O51r7-0002xr-SM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:14:35 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:35663) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O51r7-0002xf-Lk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:14:33 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O51r6-0005NJ-0r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:14:32 +0200 Original-Received: from smaug.linux.pwf.cam.ac.uk ([193.60.95.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:14:32 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by smaug.linux.pwf.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:14:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ connect(): No such file or directory Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: smaug.linux.pwf.cam.ac.uk User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:x/wrog6KjwLfoJN3hFW/t08bErE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124073 Archived-At: On 2010-04-22 19:17 +0100, Chong Yidong wrote: >> Those are menu entries. I'm a bit surprised that they are interned, but >> I don't think Calc does anything unusual in creating its menus. Other packages also have this problem, for example, gnus and emacs-w3m. Oddly not all menus have that problem. For example I created a customised-user-menu for myself in init.el and non of those strings were interned. > Anyway, I don't see how such symbols can take up so much memory. Maybe > Leo can experiment to see if a session that does not run calc has the > same problem. >From my experience, it seems 100M is common. It goes up with time. I don't know whether that's normal. But I have never seen the memory used goes down. When I first fire up Emacs, it uses ~25M. Leo