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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180950 Archived-At: On Sat, Jan 03 2015, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> (font-lock-disable-global-for): New functions for easy manipulation >> of `font-lock-global-modes' variable. > Can you give some background about why/when we'd need that? This happened when I've been asked how to disable global-font-lock-mode in compile-mode buffers. Simply replying: (setq font-lock-global-modes '(not compilation-mode)) is not a good answer since it may destroy any previous configuration user might have in their init.el. I'd imagine those functions would be used in init.el. I also thought they could be useful for major modes which wish to disable GFF, but then I've discovered that all of them just do: (set (make-local-variable 'font-lock-global-modes) nil) > Also, do you happen to know why speedbar.el does this funny dance to > avoid global-font-lock-mode from enabling font-lock in speedbar-mode? No idea, but it's not the only major mode to disable font-lock-mode. I assumed that was one of the use cases for the font-lock-global-modes variable. I also had troubles with font-lock interacting with notmuch, see , so I assume there is something that breaks speedbar when font-lock is enabled. --=20 Best regards, _ _ .o. | Liege of Serenely Enlightened Majesty of o' \,=3D./ `o ..o | Computer Science, Micha=C5=82 =E2=80=9Cmina86=E2=80=9D Nazarewicz = (o o) ooo +------ooO--(_)--Ooo--