bug#65348: INITIAL-INPUT in completing-read repeats same entry twice consecutively

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On Friday, August 18th, 2023 at 3:49 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:


> > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 00:35:09 +0000
> > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com
> > Cc: 65348@debbugs.gnu.org
> > 
> > So one is not supposed to have the value in COLLECTION if it has been specified
> > in INITIAL ?
> 
> 
> You can have it there. It does work.

But you are designating it as deprecated, which makes others think that something
awful is going to happen to it.  The introduction of HIST is only making a good
function quite terrible to use, becoming an over-engineering piece of junk to avoid.  
 
> > I find using INITIAL quite useful because the user sees something filled up.
> > What is one to do instead ?
> 
> 
> Why do you need INITIAL?

I want the user to see a default without having him to get it with the bloody "M-n".

Having the user yank it from the default to the minibuffer is a bother, not a way to 
make things easier.