From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: GTK2 support in Emacs 21.3.1? Date: 17 Apr 2003 19:19:10 +0200 Organization: T-Online Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050600867 8582 80.91.224.249 (17 Apr 2003 17:34:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 17 19:34:23 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 196DA3-0001fX-00 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 19:26:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 196D8o-0006hw-03 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:25:42 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsmm00.sul.t-online.com!t-online.de!news.t-online.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 45 Original-X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1050599950 01 18252 TcANE6dESrA3cp 030417 17:19:10 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@t-online.com X-ID: buayRsZUgeWBJ-I6iy4vbx7UNBGcHm1R7v4vt0iQqrzaF9tFUZF2rM X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6,xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN;i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:112059 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:8560 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:8560 "D. D. Brierton" writes: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:54:17 +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > > > "D. D. Brierton" writes: > > > >> I remember that a while ago GTK2 support was committed to Emacs > >> CVS. Did that make it into 21.3.1, > > > > No. 21.3 is a bugfix release. > > > >> or is it not ready for primetime yet? > > > > I am using it currently, but it is still the developer version with > > its own sets of bugs. None that would make Emacs less stable than > > typical run-of-the-mill editors, but decidedly less than customary > > for Emacs. I manage an occasional core dump when doing heavy duty > > work. > > Thanks for clarifying, David. So I guess 22.x is a more realistic > timeframe for GTK2 support as standard? No, 21.4. I certainly hope that 21.3 is the last bug fix release and 21.4 will be the new feature release. There are no major new features, just a lot of little things and additions all over the board, so it would be strange to call the next release 22.x. Even if somebody cleaned up the color and image handling. > The thing is, that when none of my apps were antialiased I didn't > really notice so much, but now practically everything is, Emacs is > beginning to give me a headache. Relative to everything else on my > screen its fonts are really hard to read. Try for different fonts: large fonts designed pixel by pixel instead of being some low-resolution rendition of print fonts. I use the standard 10x20 fonts, and they are very nice to work with, crisp, well-shaped and with constant two-pixel width stems, meaning that the diagonal fillin effects are much ameliorated. There are some screenshots from my setup at the home page of preview-latex (shameless plug). The text portions in the first screen shot are 10x20, while the math consists of (antialiased ;) images and is not relevant for the discussion. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum