From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: Mapping of M-g should be goto-line Date: 01 Apr 2004 19:35:54 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1080842164 26003 80.91.224.253 (1 Apr 2004 17:56:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 17:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 01 19:55:59 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B96Q3-0003X3-00 for ; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 19:55:59 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B96Q3-0003AG-00 for ; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 19:55:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B96E5-0006Ej-6i for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:43:37 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B967A-0005p3-I2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:36:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B966c-0005hW-V2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:36:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B966c-0005hO-Ja for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:35:54 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B9662-0004Bt-5f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:35:18 -0500 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:21163 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:21163 Per Abrahamsen writes: > storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > > > C-c C-b => bold > > This is "run command on region" in AUC TeX. > > > C-c C-d => default > > This is "save current document" in AUC TeX. > > I don't believe you should steal so many useful keybindings for > simple font manipulation commands. Actually is _is_ simple commands that should get the useful keybindings. The complex ones can be called explicitly. But if we really want to get into mode-surpassing text processing and markup, it is quite clear that the current keybindings leave us almost no place to go. That is why I suggested opening this particular can of worms together with the "Super" key. Placing text processing functions on Super keys will not take away the currently alloted keybinding space, and with an entry shortcut like M-s, one could even manipulate stuff on pure text terminals (where the need for font manipulation of the text may be less, but not completely absent). Current "industry standard" keyboards have a key that is used as Super-modifier in recent X servers. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum