From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current CVS doesn't bootstrap Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:42:29 +0100 Message-ID: References: <01c4c3f3$Blat.v2.2.2$7e8aa060@zahav.net.il> <01c4c41c$Blat.v2.2.2$0fa338a0@zahav.net.il> <200411062248.iA6MmEm29919@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <01c4c487$Blat.v2.2.2$d4c31400@zahav.net.il> <200411071743.iA7Hhfi01732@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200411071933.iA7JXul02016@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1099856576 3640 80.91.229.6 (7 Nov 2004 19:42:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 19:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 07 20:42:41 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CQsvw-00032d-00 for ; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:42:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CQt4G-0003zI-18 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 14:51:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CQt48-0003z6-EN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 14:51:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CQt47-0003yh-LP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 14:51:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CQt47-0003ye-JE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 14:51:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CQsvn-0002hi-5W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 14:42:31 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CQsve-0005RE-Sw; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 14:42:23 -0500 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: <200411071933.iA7JXul02016@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (Luc Teirlinck's message of "Sun, 7 Nov 2004 13:33:56 -0600 (CST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:29530 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29530 Luc Teirlinck writes: > David Kastrup wrote: > > If you pay for it. My laptop is a 600MHz single Pentium III, and my > desktop is a 200MHz AMD K6II. > > There are two points I wanted to make: > > 1. The main recommended procedure described in INSTALL.CVS does not > remove the .elc files. It only recommends to do `make bootstrap' in > case of problems. But the current version of `make bootstrap' is > not likely to solve these problems, most of which are caused by > failing to recompile .el files. > > 2. The second point I was trying to make, which I guess is what you > reacted to, is that for people that _do_ have reasonably fast > machines, _always_ doing a `make maintainer-clean' might be better > than the procedure recommended in INSTALL.CVS. It can save many > people a lot of time worrying about fake bugs. If you do have > resources, you might as well take advantage of them. Well, if that were the points you were trying to make, you watered them down unnecessarily with introducing your hardware. It is ok to tell people what bargains in reliability versus performance they can make. It is not ok to assume that performance may never be an issue. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum