From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: usability issue Date: 11 Jan 2003 14:28:52 +0100 Organization: T-Online Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87bs2tyk4x.fsf@wesley.springies.com> <84adi7j1vh.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1042292221 32437 80.91.224.249 (11 Jan 2003 13:37:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18XLop-0008R2-00 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:37:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18XLn9-00017b-01 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 08:35:15 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsmm00.sul.t-online.com!t-online.de!news.t-online.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1042291732 06 650 rEtFEvvTXAswj 030111 13:28:52 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@t-online.com X-Sender: 520018396234-0001@t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6,xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN;i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:108843 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:5372 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:5372 kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) writes: > "Ehud Karni" writes: > > > Because beginning-of-line and end-of-line are more useful and we > > want to use only 1 key for these functions. > > I once wrote something that allows you to hit once to go to > beginning of line, twice in a row to go to the beginning of the > window, and thrice to go to the beginning of the buffer. > > The implementation sucks somewhat, I'm afraid. > > But I think the feature is good, so WIBNI this functionality came > standard with Emacs? What do people think. I'd think beginning of window odious. I would recommend start of line, start of section/defun, start of buffer. As to the implementation: I would recommend to make it stateless: the implementation will simply check whether the cursor currently is at the start of line/section and move to the beginning of the smallest unit for which it is not yet already at the beginning. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum