From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Emacs becoming Word? Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:37:21 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111786761 7403 80.91.229.2 (25 Mar 2005 21:39:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 25 22:39:21 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DEwWR-0002nd-Sl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:39:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DEwly-0006fl-Mb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:55:20 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 59 Original-X-Trace: individual.net OFDAv+2QRzreOkAzunLbmQNR5gDRjZj9nAjFevubauk/ty+vHK X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:RZ/yH1iCZXDdZOOsXL0kTqdJKng= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:129608 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:25159 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:25159 Greg Novak writes: > As a longtime emacs user, I would like to register a complaint about > the direction of Emacs. This is probably a cry in the wilderness, > but here goes: > > Starting with Emacs21, the program has been creeping toward becoming > a WYSIWYG editor, instead of sticking to its roots as a _TEXT_ > editor. Stallman would be glad to hear it. He explicitly stated: "I want Emacs to move in the direction of doing word processing." > Some of these features are cool and useful: Eg, I use the ability to > display PNG files in a buffer to look at previews of math I've > typeset with Latex in the same buffer as the Latex source. Cool, > and useful. Thanks. > While I'm not against implementing these wacky new feature, I > request that they remain _off by default_. Which is what preview-latex does. > Today when I was editing source code and tried to type pi/2 in a > buffer, Emacs replaced it with some special character that appeared > as "1/2" as a single character. Unlikely. Let me name a few things that might have happened: a) you use Leim (C-\) for input of international characters and the transliteration for ½ is /2. Leim is not on unless you enable it. It should be easy to find an input method that suits your bill better. b) you use font-lock-mode in LaTeX and write something like ^2, in which case a subscript 2 appears. font-lock-mode is not turned on by default. Even if you turn it on, you can remove the script highlighting. > Needless to say, this is not what I wanted and I find it quite > offensive that this is happening while editing source code. Then don't enable the features. > The other day I was editing Lisp code and found that instead of the > usual paren highlighting, Emacs was highlighting the entire enclosed > expression. I don't get that here. What did you switch on to get it? > I've had a long, sometimes rocky, but mostly loving relationship > with Emacs. I find these developments troubling. There is always the NEWS file to get things back. But they are rarely on by default. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum