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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Is Emacs becoming Word?
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:37:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x5wtrvwgoe.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.223.1111775070.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Greg Novak <novak@ucolick.org> writes:

> As a longtime emacs user, I would like to register a complaint about
> the direction of Emacs.  This is probably a cry in the wilderness,
> but here goes:
>
> Starting with Emacs21, the program has been creeping toward becoming
> a WYSIWYG editor, instead of sticking to its roots as a _TEXT_
> editor.

Stallman would be glad to hear it.  He explicitly stated: "I want
Emacs to move in the direction of doing word processing."

> Some of these features are cool and useful: Eg, I use the ability to
> display PNG files in a buffer to look at previews of math I've
> typeset with Latex in the same buffer as the Latex source.  Cool,
> and useful.

Thanks.

> While I'm not against implementing these wacky new feature, I
> request that they remain _off by default_.

Which is what preview-latex does.

> Today when I was editing source code and tried to type pi/2 in a
> buffer, Emacs replaced it with some special character that appeared
> as "1/2" as a single character.

Unlikely.  Let me name a few things that might have happened:

a) you use Leim (C-\) for input of international characters and the
transliteration for ½ is /2.  Leim is not on unless you enable it.  It
should be easy to find an input method that suits your bill better.

b) you use font-lock-mode in LaTeX and write something like ^2, in
which case a subscript 2 appears.  font-lock-mode is not turned on by
default.  Even if you turn it on, you can remove the script
highlighting.

> Needless to say, this is not what I wanted and I find it quite
> offensive that this is happening while editing source code.

Then don't enable the features.

> The other day I was editing Lisp code and found that instead of the
> usual paren highlighting, Emacs was highlighting the entire enclosed
> expression.

I don't get that here.  What did you switch on to get it?

> I've had a long, sometimes rocky, but mostly loving relationship
> with Emacs.  I find these developments troubling.

There is always the NEWS file to get things back.  But they are rarely
on by default.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

       reply	other threads:[~2005-03-25 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.223.1111775070.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-25 21:37 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-03-25 23:30   ` Is Emacs becoming Word? Jochen Küpper
2005-03-26  7:15   ` Greg Novak
2005-03-26 11:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-26 12:04     ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]   ` <mailman.257.1111822540.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-26 11:08     ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-26 11:14     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-28 10:50 ` Olive
2005-03-28 21:04   ` Miles Bader
2005-03-28 22:52   ` David Kastrup
2005-03-25 18:05 Greg Novak
2005-03-25 18:21 ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-25 18:35 ` nfreimann
     [not found] ` <mailman.224.1111776025.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-25 21:20   ` David Kastrup
2005-03-25 21:30     ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-26 12:44       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <mailman.238.1111787876.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-25 22:29       ` David Kastrup
2005-03-25 22:58         ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-26  9:55           ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2005-03-26 11:24             ` Joe Corneli
     [not found]           ` <mailman.260.1111832868.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-26 11:24             ` David Kastrup
     [not found]         ` <mailman.245.1111792713.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-25 23:37           ` David Kastrup
2005-03-26  1:30       ` Henrik Enberg
2005-03-26  2:06         ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-26 12:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-26 12:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-26 17:11   ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-26 17:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-27  1:08   ` Greg Novak
2005-03-27  4:35     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <mailman.300.1111886723.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-27  2:02     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-27 10:05     ` Steinar Børmer
2005-03-27 17:08       ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-28  0:17         ` Greg Novak
2005-03-28  0:54           ` Joe Corneli
     [not found]           ` <mailman.370.1111972552.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-28  2:13             ` Thomas A. Horsley
2005-03-28  3:13               ` Henrik Enberg
2005-03-28  4:39                 ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-31 20:52               ` Greg Novak
2005-03-31 21:26                 ` Joe Corneli
     [not found]               ` <mailman.808.1112304527.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-04-01  0:35                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found] ` <mailman.272.1111843857.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-26 16:45   ` Thomas A. Horsley

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