From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Juanma Barranquero <jmbarranquero@wke.es>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Suggestion: Mapping of M-g should be goto-line
Date: 25 Mar 2004 14:43:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <x5vfkt6o08.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86zna5cdnp.fsf@avet.kvota.net>
Danilo Segan <dsegan@gmx.net> writes:
> Today at 12:55, Juanma Barranquero wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 12:23:34 +0100
> > Danilo Segan <dsegan@gmx.net> wrote:
> >
> >> That's only a reason to educate them better, not to adjust
> >> behaviour.
> >
> > Many people don't have the time to be "educated". I've introduced
> > a few friends to Emacs and they're using it happily, but they just
> > won't spend the time to learn features they feel they're not going
> > to need.
>
> Sorry if I sounded too harsh -- I just want the defaults to be good,
M-g for goto-line is a good default. "Educating" users is not the
task of an editor, and certainly not by willful omission of features.
Next thing you'll propose educating users about key combinations by
removing the menus. And educating them about M-x delete-file RET by
making shell-mode barf on rm.
That's not the way to go about it. Education of users is by making
the available information more accessible, not by hiding away all
other possibilities and making them inconvenient.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-25 6:11 Suggestion: Mapping of M-g should be goto-line Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2004-03-25 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-25 9:10 ` John Wiegley
2004-03-25 15:06 ` Eric Hanchrow
2004-03-25 16:39 ` ams
2004-03-25 21:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-25 22:21 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 23:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-25 23:41 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 23:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-26 0:50 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-26 2:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-26 11:14 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-26 10:29 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-26 12:38 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-26 13:36 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-26 14:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-27 0:07 ` Miles Bader
2004-03-27 14:53 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-04-01 1:53 ` Miles Bader
2004-03-28 1:36 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-26 15:27 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-26 17:49 ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-03-26 15:19 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-26 16:40 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-01 14:25 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-01 16:15 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 16:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-26 0:19 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-26 16:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-03-25 9:46 ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 9:54 ` Lucas
2004-03-25 10:21 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-25 10:32 ` Jari Aalto+mail.linux
2004-03-25 11:23 ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 11:34 ` Lucas
2004-03-25 14:22 ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2004-03-25 11:55 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-25 12:30 ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 13:43 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2004-03-25 14:34 ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-29 20:34 ` Ted Lemon
2004-03-25 13:53 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-25 14:49 ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 15:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-25 16:08 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-25 16:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-25 18:56 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-25 19:39 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 12:25 ` Jari Aalto+mail.linux
2004-03-25 12:55 ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 14:16 ` Jari Aalto
2004-03-25 16:28 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 17:28 ` Alan Shutko
2004-03-25 12:27 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 13:47 ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 15:18 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 13:35 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-25 13:53 ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 21:09 ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-27 5:52 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-27 16:30 ` Joachim Nilsson
2004-03-26 0:11 ` Jari Aalto+mail.linux
2004-03-26 14:31 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-26 15:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-26 21:31 ` Jari Aalto
2004-03-26 21:29 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-27 0:16 ` Miles Bader
2004-03-28 17:02 ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2004-03-28 17:37 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-28 21:11 ` Miles Bader
2004-03-28 21:10 ` Miles Bader
2004-03-25 11:42 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 12:27 ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2004-03-25 14:56 ` Joachim Nilsson
2004-03-25 18:03 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 19:10 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-25 16:47 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-25 16:42 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-26 0:13 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-27 5:52 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-27 8:14 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-03-27 11:00 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-27 13:50 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-03-27 10:46 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-28 4:25 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-28 17:03 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-28 21:14 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-01 16:04 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-01 17:35 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-27 16:17 ` Joachim Nilsson
2004-03-28 4:25 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-28 13:32 ` Joachim Nilsson
2004-03-28 13:50 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-28 17:52 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-03-28 17:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-28 21:18 ` Miles Bader
2004-03-29 20:56 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-31 9:30 ` Kim F. Storm
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