From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs release numbering 21.4 vs. 22.1 Date: 25 Feb 2004 17:23:47 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200402231805.i1NI5Zt28617@f7.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1077727438 3150 80.91.224.253 (25 Feb 2004 16:43:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 16:43:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 25 17:43:45 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Aw1so-0006T2-00 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 17:27:38 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Aw1so-0001rW-00 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 17:27:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Aw1qX-0004HF-OU for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:25:17 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Aw1pn-0004FM-PX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:24:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Aw1pG-000471-Ky for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:24:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Aw1pG-00046s-4o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:23:58 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Aw1oC-0006pk-Sh; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:22:53 -0500 Original-To: no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Lines: 39 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:20187 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:20187 no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > > > I think we want this change to be released in Emacs soon, if we > > are going to put it into Texinfo now. We should put it into a > > 21.4 release that we are going to make soon from the RC branch. > > I believe many emacs users are expecting 21.4 be released from the > CVS head as a major feature update. I am afraid so. > To remove that confusion, I suggest that we decide _NOW_ that when > CVS head will eventually be released as 22.1, and that we start > preparing for that now. > > We definitely have enough new functionality in the CVS head to > justify upgrading the major number (and I suppose that the unicode > branch will be merged to the trunk before releasing 22.1 -- right?). Personally, I think this decision would have saved me a bit of trouble. Whenever showing around new features and being asked when they would be available, my predictions have been wrong since the next version happened to be just a bug fix. 22.1 would be a good reply. Even if we are not talking about added functionality, at the time we release HEAD a substantial change in stability, behavior, keybindings and look is to be expected. I think it would prepare people better if we changed the major version number as well. But we should then really incorporate everything that has a reasonable chance of working. The unicode branch sounds like a candidate, as does the bidi branch. They really should be available without separate compilation if that does not mean a functional regression in other areas. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum