From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Scrollbar moved Date: 24 Aug 2004 09:11:24 +0200 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <412AE77F.3040308@freenet.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1093331516 1990 80.91.224.253 (24 Aug 2004 07:11:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 24 09:11:50 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BzVTC-0001JR-00 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:11:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BzVXh-0007Y0-5N for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 03:16:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BzVXX-0007Xi-S3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 03:16:19 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BzVXX-0007XW-Cf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 03:16:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BzVXX-0007XL-64 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 03:16:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BzVSm-0002Da-J1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 03:11:24 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BzVSl-0007Wh-WB; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 03:11:24 -0400 Original-To: cweinberg@freenet.de In-Reply-To: <412AE77F.3040308@freenet.de> Original-Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:20247 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:20247 Carsten Weinberg writes: > David Kastrup wrote: > > >be a good idea to try them on the left for a while. It was not mere > >stupidity that moved them there. > > > > > its normal for KDE applications that the scroll bar is located at the > right, as it is true for GNOME, and Windows and Mac applications. That > emacs defaults to an scroll bar located at the left is nothing else > than an curious relic of dogmatism. No, it has to do with the fact that Emacs is an editor. With applications that are basically viewers, you don't need the mouse cursor more often on the left than on the right. With an editor, you need it on the left most of the time if you are positioning by mouse. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum