From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta Subject: Re: Emacs setup assistants Date: 26 May 2004 09:11:20 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <1438-Thu20May2004203119+0300-eliz@gnu.org> <4nd64y29zc.fsf@lifelogs.com> <2719-Fri21May2004201241+0300-eliz@gnu.org> <4nn041u050.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4n1xl9kjab.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4n1xl89xto.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87smdocgn1.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <85lljgcdyh.fsf@servant.blindglobe.net> <20040525231939.GB26297@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1085555588 4653 80.91.224.253 (26 May 2004 07:13:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 07:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , Ted Zlatanov , xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, rossini@u.washington.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed May 26 09:13:02 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BSsb0-00013E-00 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 09:13:02 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BSsaz-0004Fq-00 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 09:13:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BSsaL-0006qW-MX for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 26 May 2004 03:12:21 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BSsZv-0006p8-R1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 May 2004 03:11:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BSsZP-0006gl-2d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 May 2004 03:11:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BSsZO-0006gf-Rz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 May 2004 03:11:22 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BSsZN-0006ti-QI; Wed, 26 May 2004 03:11:22 -0400 Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: <20040525231939.GB26297@fencepost> Original-Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23950 gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:14844 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23950 Miles Bader writes: > I consider myself an emacs `power user', but I'd really appreciate simple > assistants too -- sometimes you just don't want to slog though all the > manual pages just to get started reading mail (or my current "confused about > gnus" issue, spam setup). I don't see how being forced artificially to keep a sequence will make things simpler. If you don't want the "complication" of being able to look ahead, you are not forced to do so. Personally, I find it rather a nuisance if some software forces a sequence unto me that basically forces me to completely start over if I made a mistake at the beginning somewhere. I can live perfectly well without that sort of "simplicity". -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum