From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: follow-link in grep buffer Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:32:22 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1109363923 19704 80.91.229.2 (25 Feb 2005 20:38:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:38:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 25 21:38:42 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D4mEJ-000862-Es for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:38:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D4mW8-000751-7v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:56:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D4mUb-0006WC-OY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:55:21 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D4mTA-00060E-2c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:53:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D4mT7-0005jv-Df for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:53:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D4m8N-00042f-TR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:32:23 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D4m8N-0006H7-IQ; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:32:23 -0500 Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:07:50 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33812 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33812 Stefan Monnier writes: >> Terrible. If I tell that to any new Emacs users, they'll shake >> their heads and leave Emacs alone. > >> And when you tell them about mouse-1 plus mouse-3 and all the rest? > > The difference is that you don't need to tell Emacs novices about > mouse-1+mouse-3 (which I never ever use in Emacs, BTW, I always use > drag-mouse-1 instead). Oh, but clicking mouse-3 twice for deletion is so convenient that it warrants teaching. Also using mouse-3 for _extending_ a region can't be replaced by dragging. But you are right in that one does not _need_ to teach it to people, and they are not worse off than with any other editor. It is ok if people discover the joys of Emacs not all at once. But we should try to avoid hitting them with unpleasant surprises right away. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum