From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What did you do with Emacs!!!!! Date: 10 Apr 2003 11:01:21 +0200 Organization: T-Online Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <3E89C1FE.8143540@spam.de> <873cl0t27j.fsf@tiger.rapttech.com.au> <87fzots83v.fsf@tiger.rapttech.com.au> <87u1d6py9i.fsf@tiger.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1049965633 15604 80.91.224.249 (10 Apr 2003 09:07:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 10 11:07:11 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 193Y1X-00043V-00 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:07:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 193Xzu-00059d-01 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 05:05:30 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsmm00.sul.t-online.com!t-online.de!news.t-online.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 46 Original-X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1049965282 01 26852 Ff+yEkjGTWASEy 030410 09:01:22 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@t-online.com X-ID: XVZ2XeZr8euqVo+FJ7p-LF4L+iz8iEq1fKbGEaJ-bv4-jHqb1a1QoU X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6,xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN;i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:111842 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:8343 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:8343 Tim X writes: > David Kastrup writes: > > > Tim X writes: > > > > > David Kastrup writes: > > > > > > > Tim X writes: > > > > > > > > > The first thing I did when moving to emacs 21 was finid out > > > > > how to get rid of the toolbar, the blinking cursor and > > > > > rebuilt it without image support. > > > > > > > > What does the last buy you except make it completely impossible to > > > > use something like ? > > > > > > I don't need it - I'm a blind user and ALL forms of graphics are a > > > total waste of time for me. > > > > A detail worth mentioning. > > Didn't think it was relevant since the original poster was asking > about how to make their emacs 21 like older emacs. > > > Is there an advantage of using a window > > environment at all in that case? I would imagine that it would not > > buy you anything over a pure tty Emacs. > > Frames for one, which I find more convenient than constantly > splitting and switching windows. tty Emacsen do have frames: try C-x 5 2. I can't judge their utility for blind people, of course. > plus it use to be a lot easier to setup so that you had more > characters and lines per screen than you could get in a tty. Well, if you are running a tty Emacs in an X term, that should not be too much of an issue. Of course, the bottom line is that you will use what works for best for you. Thanks for the info! -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum