From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [Slightly OT] Small GNU Emacs lookalike, UTF-8-able Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:30:38 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108416571 29330 80.91.229.2 (14 Feb 2005 21:29:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 14 22:29:31 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0nmN-0002ZL-7H for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:29:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0o1y-0000B2-Td for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:45:22 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Trace: individual.net iClz2IPR2tZbIGZrRMocuA3c+7ZCQv3mks6+9wtx/btaIX7okC X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:g4N3w6ifTq52zhU/VCoazaVrkeg= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:128552 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:24084 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:24084 Leonardo Boiko writes: > Hi. I'm happy with GNU Emacs, it does internationalization affairs > just fine. However, I want to edit texts in my old laptop, with > only 24MiB of RAM, and Emacs is unusable. Even being the only > application running, and even with all minor modes disabled, it > still swaps like crazy. > > Thus I'm looking for a small-footprint Emacs clone. My requirements > are: > > - Unicode and UTF-8 support, including CJK and Latin characters. > - As similar to Emacs as possible, with the same main keybindings. > - Either it's possible to run it in a Unicode terminal emulator > (rxvt-unicode), or it's a X app accepting XIM input methods. > - Doesn't need its own input method system (I can use scim or uim). > - Doesn't need to have fancy programming modes. > > I tried vimacs (breaks on utf), jed (couldn't setup utf), mined (too > weird), and e3 (cursor positioning code breaks on wide characters). > Another option would be optimizing Emacs for low memory consumption, if > that's possible. Suggestions? Emacs is not really that terrible concerning memory consumptions. I suspect your window system to be involved with your problems here. You should aim for a lean window manager like icewm and see whether this allows you to run a straightforward Emacs. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum