From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: dired-do-hardlink should update link count we see Date: 09 Jul 2002 15:34:51 +0200 Organization: T-Online Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87eleemkdl.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1026221675 14031 127.0.0.1 (9 Jul 2002 13:34:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17Rv8U-0003eC-00 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 15:34:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17Rv9B-0005Ot-00; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 09:35:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17Rv8n-0005OR-00 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 09:34:53 -0400 Original-Received: from imh00.t-online.com by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 17Rv8m-0003SS-00; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 15:34:52 +0200 Original-Received: from news.t-online.com by imh00.t-online.com with esmtp id 17Rv8m-0007zO-00; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 15:34:52 +0200 Original-Received: from news by news.t-online.com with local id 17Rv8m-0006fn-00; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 15:34:52 +0200 Original-To: gnu-emacs-bug@prep.ai.mit.edu Original-Path: news.t-online.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug Original-Lines: 35 Original-X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1026221691 06 23385 KtAYbAtVE9AbNb 020709 13:34:51 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@t-online.com X-Sender: 520018396234-0001@t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6,xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN;i";/yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:2553 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:2553 eliz@is.elta.co.il (Eli Zaretskii) writes: > On 9 Jul 2002, David Kastrup wrote: > > > So if your claim was to be > > what you claim, it was utterly irrelevant to the report. > > I don't think it was irrelevant. It is perfectly understandable if one thinks some things not worth fixing or doing correctly. There is something like priorities. Playing semantic games and going into denial is not necessary if one does not want to indulge personally into fixing a problem, and it may keep others from doing so. Short summary: Almost all dired operations update the buffer (without actually rereading the directory) according to their knowledge about the affected change. dired-do-hardlink doesn't adjust the link count which changes predictably. That's what Dan reported. You first claimed that dired operations don't update the buffer, then you claimed that this was supposed to mean dired does not reread the directory in order to update the buffer. Since rereading the directory is not necessary for predicting the changed link count, this interpretation of your original claim would make it irrelevant. You beg to differ. Since you are in effect asking that the current behavior not be changed for the sake of some perceived consistency, it might be good to back up your claim before some misguided soul might be tempted into changing Emacs' behavior in that regard. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum Email: David.Kastrup@t-online.de