From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: usability issue Date: 16 Jan 2003 11:23:27 +0100 Organization: T-Online Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87bs2tyk4x.fsf@wesley.springies.com> <3E268554.2030409@deviantart.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1042712778 21592 80.91.224.249 (16 Jan 2003 10:26:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Z7E0-0005bz-00 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:26:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18Z7Dz-0006Av-0A for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 05:26:15 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news100.image.dk!feed.news.nacamar.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsmm00.sul.t-online.com!t-online.de!news.t-online.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1042712607 07 2879 C0CHEWsb9ALHe 030116 10:23:27 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@t-online.com X-Sender: 520018396234-0001@t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6,xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN;i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:109013 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:5541 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:5541 Andrew writes: > John Paul Wallington wrote: > > Andrew wrote: > > > >>i just don't know how to find if I'm at the beginning of a line. Is > >>there a function; or does it need to be written specially? > > See `bolp'. > > > > for the sack of politness; heres my version of the functions (only > line and buffer sorry) feel free to do whatever. > > (defun beginning-of-line-or-buffer () > "Sends point to the beginning of the current line, or, if already there, > the beginning of the buffer" > (interactive) > (if (bolp) > (goto-char (point-min)) > (beginning-of-line) > )) > > (defun end-of-line-or-buffer () > "Sends point to the beginning of the current line, or, if already there, > the beginning of the buffer" > (interactive) > (if (eolp) > (goto-char (point-max)) > (end-of-line) > )) I think at least the far jumps should place a mark so that C-x C-x will get you back. So you would want to use beginning-of-buffer instead of (goto-char (point-min)) and the corresponding for the end. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum